Sounds really cool.  It's something I would like to
get into after a couple years of autocrossing.  I also
need a lot of dough.

thanks,

aj

--- Lee & Tracy Grimes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No this one with the nice engine is in an E
> Production racecar.  IT engines
> are little more than cleaned up, optimized street
> engines, less power less
> money and more relaible. After many years of racing
> IT, I stupidly decided
> to sell a perfectly good racecar and build a money
> pit racecar. If I get
> smart, I may go back to IT as I have most of the
> parts needed to build
> another car.
> 
> Lee
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "AJ Nealey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Lee & Tracy Grimes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 12:43 AM
> Subject: Re: CRX: Purple Ice...Water Wetter
> 
> 
> > Your not running this CRX of yours in ITA are you?
> >
> > just curious,
> >
> > aj =)
> >
> > --- Lee & Tracy Grimes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > MessageDon't just remove the thermostat as you
> can
> > > cause even more heat problems, a common issue
> for
> > > racers.  When in the system, the thermostat adds
> > > some back pressure that slows the flow.  If you
> > > remove the backpressure and speed up the flow,
> the
> > > water spends less quality cooling time in the
> > > radiator so the water that goes back into the
> engine
> > > is hotter.  The car can actually run hotter if
> you
> > > don't give the water enough time to cool in the
> > > radiator.  The usual racer trick if needed is to
> gut
> > > a thermostat then put the shell in the system to
> add
> > > some resistance to flow.  I have not tried this
> as
> > > my Hondas have always raced cool.
> > >
> > > I think you are really on the right track with
> the
> > > Purple Ice/Water Wetter step first.  This should
> > > impreove the heat transfer efficiency without
> having
> > > any downsides. This summer and last winter we
> raced
> > > a Mazda RX7 in 12 and 24 hour endurance races
> and I
> > > learned a bit about coolant since rotaries run
> much,
> > > much hotter than piston engines.  The 12 hour
> ran in
> > > the heat of June and we were the only rotary
> team to
> > > finish as the others all boiled over but we
> spent
> > > much of the daylight race hours driving watching
> the
> > > water temp, short shifting and not drafting so
> we
> > > had a steady fresh air supply to the big
> aluminum
> > > race radiator.  Apparantly water is a better
> > > transferer of heat than is ethylene glycol
> > > (anti-freeze) so the 50/50 mix that most people
> > > suggest is actually good to reduce freeze issues
> but
> > > does not transfer heat that well at all.  They
> say a
> > > 75-90% water/ 10-25% glycol mix will do a better
> job
> > > of actually cooling.  The glycol does have some
> rust
> > > inhibitors and water pump lubricants in it so
> you
> > > need some measure of it present.
> > >
> > > Finally, I am putting a 2-row Accord radiator in
> the
> > > latest CRX racecar because the 14:1 compression
> and
> > > 9,000 rpm on the D16A6 is certainly going to run
> > > hotter than my previous race engines.  It is a
> very
> > > tight fit and I haven't finished making all the
> > > brackets but I know someone who is having good
> > > success with this radiator in his high stressed
> CRX
> > > racer.  This is an engine I can't affored to
> melt
> > > down.
> > >
> > > Lee
> > >   ----- Original Message -----
> > >   From: George Freeman
> > >   To: 'David Miller' ; 'Lee & Tracy Grimes' ;
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 9:49 PM
> > >   Subject: RE: CRX: Purple Ice...Water Wetter
> > >
> > >
> > >   Hmm, didn't think about that one.  Any
> downsides?
> > >
> > >
> > >   -George
> > >     -----Original Message-----
> > >     From: David Miller
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > >     Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 9:40 PM
> > >     To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Lee & Tracy
> > > Grimes; George Freeman; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >     Subject: RE: CRX: Purple Ice...Water Wetter
> > >
> > >
> > >     Have you considered removing the thermostat?
> > >
> > >     David
> > >       -----Original Message-----
> > >       From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > >       Sent: Sun 1/5/2003 8:43 AM
> > >       To: Lee & Tracy Grimes; George Freeman;
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >       Cc:
> > >       Subject: Re: CRX: Purple Ice...Water
> Wetter
> > >
> > >
> > >       Lee,
> > >
> > >
> > >       I rarely have had heat issues with stock
> > > Hondas in the past since like you
> > >       said they run cool compared to other cars.
>  My
> > > challenge is the shaved
> > >       head/higher compression on the D16Z6 is
> > > creating a hotter running motor than
> > >       stock which has lots of power during the
> first
> > > few minutes of running, then
> > >       slowly starts losing ponies as it warms up
> > > (radiator & coolant are new BTW).
> > >
> > >       Here in FL the heat factor is more
> dramatic in
> > > the summer so I'm willing to
> > >       try this stuff and see what happens. 
> Little
> > > Beast is becoming very fun to
> > >       drive as I slowly chip away at each issue
> one
> > > by one (ignition, timing,
> > >       cooling, etc.).
> > >
> > >
> > >       -George
> > >
> > >       > That stuff sounds like Red Line's Water
> > > Wetter.  I've used it for years in
> > >       > the racecars and put it in the van that
> > > tended to run hot when towing.   I
> > >       > don't think I've run it in a street
> Honda
> > > but luckily they run so cool
> > >       > anyway. That is something we can be very
> > > happy about, rarely ever do you see
> > >       > or hear of a Honda overheating and if so
> it
> > > is usually a blatent problem and
> > >       > not a design issue.
> > >       >
> > >       > Lee
> > >       >
> > >       >
> > >       > ----- Original Message -----
> > >       > From: "George Freeman"
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >       > > CRX content:  Just got a bottle of
> "Purple
> > > Ice" and plan to put it in
> > >       > > soon.  Apparently, you have to drain
> the
> > > coolant out so there's only 15%
> > >       > > left, then add just water and the
> Purple
> 
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GS CRX

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