On 2013-06-29, at 11:48 PM, Jacob Appelbaum <[email protected]> wrote:

> Natanael:
>> I'm not seeing that many options though. The Phantom project died pretty
>> fast;
>> https://code.google.com/p/phantom/
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/phantom-protocol
>> http://phantom-anon.blogspot.se/
>> 
>> So who's out there developing any useful protocols for anonymization today?
>> *Anybody*? Could we try to start a new project (if needed) to create one?
>> (I would like one with at least the same level of functionality as I2P,
>> even if it would have to have a very different architecture.)
> 
> I guess you might be interested in this project called Tor? A few of us
> have spent a decade working on it:
> 
>  https://www.torproject.org/

There should be a disclaimer somewhere that Tor is a competitor to I2P, is far 
from perfect itself (actually has a few glaring weaknesses, such as exit 
nodes), and the guy critiquing I2P works for Tor.

I'm a Tor supporter personally, but those things should be clarified!

NK

> 
> I'd suggest if you want to experiment with Tor and i2p, to try Tails:
> 
>  https://tails.boum.org
> 
> All the best,
> Jacob
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