Quoting Olivier Langlois <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> I'm not so sure that VCEE is an "upgrade" compare to VC6. If I'm not
> mistaken, VCEE doesn't optimize code. No MS compiler after VC6 comes with a
> built-in profiler which quite handy in a project such as CS.
It definitly is an upgrade. VC6 have, the best of days, a half-broken template
support (in reality it's totally broken), fails to optimize certain common
operations and in general is an old compiler (the compiler predates the ISO
standardization of C++).

The compiler in VCEE is optimizing, and the same compiler that is included in
the pro version (and is tody probably the best C++ compiler around, togheter
with Comeau)

It's true that MS have removed the built-in profiler, however the "Community
Edition" of DevPartner profiler works well (better than VC6 profiler in many
cases), or you can get a good profiler for some money ;)

>
> In fact, I have VC6 and VC.NET 2003 installed on my machine and I definitely
> prefer VC6. I tried to recompile some of my old projects with VC.NET 2003
> and I have been very disappointed with the result. 2003 version creates
> bigger EXE files!
So? Was it using same settings?
Also, unless you make 4K demos or so i wouldn't care about this.. the question
is how fast they run and how well you can utilize C++.

>
> IMO, their new C++ compilers are bloated with useless language extension and
> besides since MS tries to push their new language C# and .NET framework, I
> think they stopped trying hard to improve their C++ compilers.
>
The language extensions is in no way useless, but that is beside the point here
;) MS is constantly improving their compiler and is now imo nr 1 among
compilers (MS is also active participant of ISO C++ Standard organ.. where one
of their employees have the chair of the board ;)

As a CS dev I am happy we're dropping VC6 support.. now we don't have to make
ugly (and sometimes limiting for correct compilers) workarounds for VC6 not
following standard.

-M



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