On 17.02.2010 12:32, Denis Washington wrote:
> It was mentioned several times on this list that the website may need a 
> fresher look, and therefore I played around with Inkscape the last few days 
> to mock something up. I'd  now like to present the results of this.

Looks nice. For my personal taste, the current color scheme is somewhat
too pastel-y.
Besides my subjective opinion, since the shades of blue are relatively
light, there is not much contrast between the white background or text.
So darkening things would probably improve readability.

> When looking at those screenshots, you probably will have noticed that I 
> didn't use the current official CrystalSpace logo, but a simplified, 
> monochrome-blue version. In combination with the site design, I also would 
> like to propose this new logo; I find it's clearness appealing, and think 
> such a logo design would feel more professional than the current one. As can 
> be seen, I also designed very similar logos for CEL and CELstart. (The 
> current three icons have very different styles and don't have much of a 
> stylistic coherence, IMO.)

They look more coherent indeed.
However, to make same somewhat more distinctive, perhaps consider use of
_different_ colors after all? E.g. the celstart logo now is a red
rocket, so maybe give the logo a red tint. CEL could be, dunno, green.
(If the logos are reduced - e.g. for use as OS icons - having only a
blue 'c' and the respective shard thingies may make the logos look too
much alike. Color would be another 'clue' there.)

Just one thing that irks me is the wire cube in the CS3D logo. It
doesn't really fit IMO.

> There is also another, more subtle change that the mockups suggest: a small 
> change in how the term "CrystalSpace" is used. Currently, "CrystalSpace" and 
> "CrystalSpace 3D" are interchangable in that they both mean the 3D engine. I 
> propose to use "CrystalSpace 3D" for the engine instead, making 
> "CrystalSpace" the name of the complete platform - that is, CrystalSpace 3D + 
> CEL + CELstart. Thus, everyone working on one of these projects (or any other 
> project that might be developed under the CrystalSpace umbrella in the 
> future) would be part of the broader "CrystalSpace community". Admittedly 
> this is a purely cosmetic change, but one that, in my opinion, would signal a 
> greater belonging of CEL(start) to the CrystalSpace project.

Since "CrystalSpace 3D" and "CrystalSpace" are already used synonymously
it might be better to use additional "qualifiers" if when clarity is
needed, such as "CrystalSpace 3D engine" for the engine, "CrystalSpace
project"/"community" for the umbrella.

(I'm not sure, but I think the "3D" kind of seeped into the name when
the domain crystalspace.org fell to a domain grabber and we had to
settle for crystalspace3d.org instead ...)

-f.r.

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