Well this was posted on the reddit a few days ago and we know for a fact
that the devs go there. I just think there's nothing to be discussed here.


On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 2:38 PM, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:

>  Hm...
> ... if i would have the knowledge how this works and if i could code
> anything like an AC-Tool or could analize how this IT-Experts let something
> work, i wouldnt post just my 'Non-Info-Text'.
>
> Im just a noob on IT but a freaking clean player and sportsman and all i
> want is a fair and nearly cheatfree game. This is an utopian dream, i know,
> but isnt it the right attitude to inform a bigger community about what is
> really new advertised?
>
> And:
> Valve and Ido know which data this cheat will grab to use these for their
> fucking cheat cause the video shows 'the skills' of this new way of cheat.
> I hope they find a solution. I cant help finding a way, but i will fight as
> hard as possible (for me) against cheater.
> Sorry for beeing such a damn idiot who inform as soon as possible...
>
> To Ido:
> If u read this and this is the wrong place for this 'discussion', then
> please just say it, and i wont post something like this anymore in this
> list.
>
> To Jay Speedy:
> Dont know how to say it respectful... I think u should ignore those topics
> which are 'wrong' in this place - in ur opinion. If the rest think so too,
> nobody will answer and the topic is 'closed'...
>
> Have a nice weekend guys!
>
>
> Am 23.11.2013 19:50, schrieb Jay Speedy:
>
>  You know... I stopped taking you seriously when you told me what I
> should be doing while saying I shouldn't be telling people what to do as if
> you're some high authority. Furthermore, this guy just said "fix it". He
> didn't say how it worked nor did he provide ANY info about it that could
> help Valve stop this. For that bypass and every other game breaking bug or
> glitch that has been brought up in this mailing list, people have told Ido
> how they did it/ how it can be reproduced and what it does. They have
> provided enough information to make it possible for Valve to simply just
> change the code. This person just said "Blah blah blah there's this new
> cheat blah blah it's hardware based blah blah fix it now Valve"
>  . That's basically useless information. Valve has learned nothing new
> from this except that it's hardware based. How is that going to help them
> patch it!? If I said some guy was hacking and it's software based, that
> wouldn't help Valve at all. Because of these reasons, I concluded that it
> was nothing more than a guy begging Valve to do something blindly. This is
> not a place for begging. This is a place for finding solutions to issues
> and stating what everyone knows and that doesn't help Valve, isn't going to
> help them fix it.
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Bruno Garcia <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>>  Jay Speedy: This IS in fact the place to be posting such thread.
>>
>>  You can take for example a thread that became active on the list
>> recently about Steam Family Ban bypasses, and it started as a "complaint"
>> or "begging" as you may call it. And guess what: Valve did something about
>> it, because people started to take notice of this issue and wanted the
>> change.
>>
>>  Perhaps this is the way to introduce a new issue to valve, although they
>> have self-awareness, they might miss on some things.
>>
>>
>>  On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 6:30 AM, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>  I think thta this is the right place because this Cheat is just fpr
>>> CS:GO - at the moment.
>>>
>>> Whatever. I dont know how it is working but i know, that the data is
>>> grabed by this cheat and visualize these on another device and so. There
>>> must be a chance to prevent this cheat to get all these informantion about
>>> opponent player positions...
>>>
>>> I cant believe that this new cheat is undetectable or unpreventable but
>>> if we wait until it is released, it will be too late!
>>>
>>> We have a lot of server-admins which do everything they can to block and
>>> detect cheater, so it is an important topic for the most CS:GO
>>> Server-Admins - thats my opinion.
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 23.11.2013 06:57, schrieb Jay Speedy:
>>>
>>> I'm not taking away his freedom, I'm just saying this is not the place
>>> for this. Just like how you don't sing, yell, or talk loudly in a library.
>>>
>>>
>>>  On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 12:30 AM, Bruno Garcia <[email protected]
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>  "Not balancing and not begging, so please, don't do this again."
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  You're free to give your opinion. You are not free to tell people
>>>> what to do or not to do...
>>>>
>>>>  Thread related: It seems like VAC is one of Valve's secrets. Users,
>>>> admins and players never find out about changes, updates and things
>>>> happening around VAC. Even if there are such things.
>>>>
>>>>  There was never a VAC Beta version for Admins to try out on their
>>>> servers, so it gives feedback to VALVE.
>>>>  Nothing is spoken about VAC.
>>>>
>>>>  Perhaps they should?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 7:20 PM, Jay Speedy <[email protected]
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I didn't think I was that rude... :/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 5:19 PM, Cody Woodson <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  The list is for server owners to discuss server issues.  The hack
>>>>>> could pose a potential issue for server owners.  Don't be rude.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 22, 2013, at 2:14 PM, Jay Speedy <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Umm.... it's not that easy. VAC can't and hasn't stopped all the
>>>>>> CODED hacks so what makes you think that Organner's hardware based hack
>>>>>> which they are charging 800 euros a year for is gonna be that easy to 
>>>>>> stop?
>>>>>> Valve isn't retarded and VAC isn't totally useless, but it's not gonna be
>>>>>> easy AT ALL for them to stop this. Also, this mailing list is used for
>>>>>> discussing bugs or issues with the games code. Not balancing and not
>>>>>> begging, so please, don't do this again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 5:01 PM, [email protected] <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey guys,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> organner starts advertising his new undetectable cheat which uses NO
>>>>>>> CODE and is hardware-based.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I really have no idea of scripting/coding/etc. but it seems to me
>>>>>>> that just Valve can stop this shit!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> PLEASE try(!!) to prevent this way of cheating by changing something
>>>>>>> essential - THX!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUuuTPlNMyY#t=44
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Look at this... :-(
>>>>>>>
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