More than likely, the cheat acts as a network sniffer and determines relative player location though packets on the wire - hence the claim that it probably already works for PS3.
There's not much Valve can to do combat it other than making changes to the network API (which would break demo compatibility - and who knows what else) or adding encryption (which would introduce a considerable amount of lag). My personal opinion is that this content isn't really relevant to the CS:GO Servers mailing list, but it's not my authority to say that. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2013 2:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] Organner with Cheat 3.0 ... :( VALVE, PLS stop this! Hm... ... if i would have the knowledge how this works and if i could code anything like an AC-Tool or could analize how this IT-Experts let something work, i wouldnt post just my 'Non-Info-Text'. Im just a noob on IT but a freaking clean player and sportsman and all i want is a fair and nearly cheatfree game. This is an utopian dream, i know, but isnt it the right attitude to inform a bigger community about what is really new advertised? And: Valve and Ido know which data this cheat will grab to use these for their fucking cheat cause the video shows 'the skills' of this new way of cheat. I hope they find a solution. I cant help finding a way, but i will fight as hard as possible (for me) against cheater. Sorry for beeing such a damn idiot who inform as soon as possible... To Ido: If u read this and this is the wrong place for this 'discussion', then please just say it, and i wont post something like this anymore in this list. To Jay Speedy: Dont know how to say it respectful... I think u should ignore those topics which are 'wrong' in this place - in ur opinion. If the rest think so too, nobody will answer and the topic is 'closed'... Have a nice weekend guys! Am 23.11.2013 19:50, schrieb Jay Speedy: You know... I stopped taking you seriously when you told me what I should be doing while saying I shouldn't be telling people what to do as if you're some high authority. Furthermore, this guy just said "fix it". He didn't say how it worked nor did he provide ANY info about it that could help Valve stop this. For that bypass and every other game breaking bug or glitch that has been brought up in this mailing list, people have told Ido how they did it/ how it can be reproduced and what it does. They have provided enough information to make it possible for Valve to simply just change the code. This person just said "Blah blah blah there's this new cheat blah blah it's hardware based blah blah fix it now Valve" . That's basically useless information. Valve has learned nothing new from this except that it's hardware based. How is that going to help them patch it!? If I said some guy was hacking and it's software based, that wouldn't help Valve at all. Because of these reasons, I concluded that it was nothing more than a guy begging Valve to do something blindly. This is not a place for begging. This is a place for finding solutions to issues and stating what everyone knows and that doesn't help Valve, isn't going to help them fix it. On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Bruno Garcia <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Jay Speedy: This IS in fact the place to be posting such thread. You can take for example a thread that became active on the list recently about Steam Family Ban bypasses, and it started as a "complaint" or "begging" as you may call it. And guess what: Valve did something about it, because people started to take notice of this issue and wanted the change. Perhaps this is the way to introduce a new issue to valve, although they have self-awareness, they might miss on some things. On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 6:30 AM, [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: I think thta this is the right place because this Cheat is just fpr CS:GO - at the moment. Whatever. I dont know how it is working but i know, that the data is grabed by this cheat and visualize these on another device and so. There must be a chance to prevent this cheat to get all these informantion about opponent player positions... I cant believe that this new cheat is undetectable or unpreventable but if we wait until it is released, it will be too late! We have a lot of server-admins which do everything they can to block and detect cheater, so it is an important topic for the most CS:GO Server-Admins - thats my opinion. Am 23.11.2013 06:57, schrieb Jay Speedy: I'm not taking away his freedom, I'm just saying this is not the place for this. Just like how you don't sing, yell, or talk loudly in a library. On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 12:30 AM, Bruno Garcia <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: "Not balancing and not begging, so please, don't do this again." You're free to give your opinion. You are not free to tell people what to do or not to do... Thread related: It seems like VAC is one of Valve's secrets. Users, admins and players never find out about changes, updates and things happening around VAC. Even if there are such things. There was never a VAC Beta version for Admins to try out on their servers, so it gives feedback to VALVE. Nothing is spoken about VAC. Perhaps they should? On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 7:20 PM, Jay Speedy <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: I didn't think I was that rude... :/ On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 5:19 PM, Cody Woodson <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: The list is for server owners to discuss server issues. The hack could pose a potential issue for server owners. Don't be rude. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 22, 2013, at 2:14 PM, Jay Speedy <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Umm.... it's not that easy. VAC can't and hasn't stopped all the CODED hacks so what makes you think that Organner's hardware based hack which they are charging 800 euros a year for is gonna be that easy to stop? Valve isn't retarded and VAC isn't totally useless, but it's not gonna be easy AT ALL for them to stop this. Also, this mailing list is used for discussing bugs or issues with the games code. Not balancing and not begging, so please, don't do this again. On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 5:01 PM, [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Hey guys, organner starts advertising his new undetectable cheat which uses NO CODE and is hardware-based. I really have no idea of scripting/coding/etc. but it seems to me that just Valve can stop this shit! 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