The number of people who contact me with requests to help them set up their server and they don't even know they're supposed to get plugins from alliedmods leads me to believe your estimate is very optimistic. I point them to a link to the plugin and then still have to tell them how to install it because they have absolutely no interest in learning anything about the community - they just want a 1v1 server with knives to play with their friends when ours is full, or whatever. On Jul 17, 2015 7:52 PM, "Moritz Uehling" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I a willing to bet that 90% of server operators aren't even on this > list > > It was also discussed on reddit and on alliedmodders. > > Even if only 10% are here, I guesd at least 80-90% of the relevant server > admins have seen it. > > On July 18, 2015 1:32:48 AM T L <[email protected]> wrote: > >> You really think that's an appropriate solution? I a willing to bet that >> 90% of server operators aren't even on this list. With all of the managed >> server options out there that take care of updates for their clients, there >> is little reason for those ops to be worried about what Valve is >> screw...... errrrr changing. >> >> I think they are simply worried about their bottom line and those of us >> trying to keep game platforms fun for gamers are not ranking very high on >> the priority list. >> >> On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Andreas Willinger <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I would like to know that as well.. >>> >>> Just joined a Spanish 1v1 server yesterday (most likely owned by >>> Franc1sco anyways): knife plugin, fake coins, fake competitive rank, fake >>> skins – the whole package. >>> >>> Imho, all those servers should get permabanned from the masterserver. >>> >>> >>> >>> *Von:* [email protected] [mailto: >>> [email protected]] *Im Auftrag von *Mambo >>> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 17. Juli 2015 22:12 >>> *An:* [email protected] >>> *Betreff:* Re: [Csgo_servers] Request to Server Operators >>> >>> >>> >>> there are still servers using knife and weapon skin plugins, is there >>> any benefit for us who disabled those plugins, or can I just re enable them >>> again? >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Andre Müller <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> With CS:GO I stopped hosting gameservers. In my opinion it was from the >>> beginning a dead horse for public gaming. I played a lot CS:GO matchmaking, >>> a little bit casual (Gungame, Deathmatch), but I am too old for this. I was >>> sick of getting updates, which aren't working and where I was forced to do >>> my own workarounds for a gameserver provider. On client side the GUI is >>> sick. Friends having the few days problems with VAC. They got kicked from >>> mostly all mm servers. A girlfriend has problem with the matchmaikng >>> system. It takes mostly a half hour until it works. Also steamcmd sucks. >>> How the hell they could realease this tool, which was broken by design. Not >>> to host gameservers makes me so more chilled :-) >>> >>> It makes not difference to me, if Valve kills the CS:GO community or >>> not. The community seems already to be dead. This is my feeling. >>> >>> >>> >>> [email protected] <[email protected]> schrieb am Di., >>> 14. Juli 2015 um 21:57 Uhr: >>> >>> Absolutely right! Thx for the wall of text with a lot of right >>> arguments! >>> >>> Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android >>> http://www.aqua-mail.com >>> >>> Am 14. Juli 2015 15:27:42 schrieb Michael Loveless < >>> [email protected]>: >>> >>> I understand that even as community server operators, many of us are in >>> direct competition with each other for traffic, loyal patrons, market >>> share, whatever. But at the end of the day we are all part of what is a >>> clearly dying breed and I think that in a time like this it's completely >>> unnecessary for anyone to come in here to bad mouth others and be >>> disrespectful about the potential quality of someone's community because >>> they are upset that of all things Valve chooses to contact us about... it's >>> regarding non-marketable versions of skins and not about any one of the >>> optimization, performance, or gameplay issues that have plagued servers for >>> the past 3 years. Not everyone is in a niche environment with their servers >>> with die hard community members. Many of us compete in a high demand "game >>> mode market" (5v5, dm, 1v1, etc..) that doesn't offer a lot of wiggle room >>> for uniqueness to the extent that it completely sets us apart from others. >>> Even having little things like vanilla knives which aren't in a player's >>> inventory, and obviously doesn't give them a false sense of ownership, are >>> just nice little things that don't change the game play experience but >>> offer a little extra for players to enjoy while on our servers. Does >>> wanting that on our servers, which has ZERO effect on how much money >>> friggin Valve makes, mean we should be subject to hate and shit talk from >>> people who are essentially doing the same thing we are but have a different >>> view on the matter? >>> >>> >>> >>> We are all struggling for the same thing, a little piece of the pie and >>> to create an enjoyable environment doing something we love. The enemy here >>> is not each other. Valve may not necessarily be the enemy but there is >>> absolutely no denying that they are going out of there way to shut out >>> communities and that's what we should be pissed about, not that some people >>> want a !knife plugin and others think that we are shitty owners for wanting >>> it. We all know how each of the past 2 Operations have been entirely geared >>> towards official servers. We all know the new XP system has taken that a >>> step further. Those are 2 major obstacles community servers have to >>> overcome. Then comes the part about drops. You get something like 4 per >>> week on community servers (or outside the XP system), which is perfectly >>> fine, but jesus christ can we stop getting 5 Operation-old cases that >>> hardly sell for .03 on the market? Couldn't we get a few new collections of >>> mostly junk skins to replace the original junk skins (sand dunes, >>> contractors, etc.)? How about a NEW E SPORTS CASE? That is a community >>> driven product that not only helps community servers, but helps pro players >>> and organizations, as well as feeds the most important entity of them >>> all...Valve. >>> >>> >>> >>> What gets me the most is why Valve wants to kill off community servers >>> in favor of their own. Their servers are literally an expense. Without ads >>> there is zero monetization. Sure, buying the Operation pass is profit and >>> can certainly afford them servers...but their servers put another negative >>> mark on their already extensive list of reasons why people hate them for >>> the things going on in this game. They force players onto these shit casual >>> servers where the VAR is literally stuck in the yellow and it feels like >>> you are playing on a Gameboy Color. Why is this the experience they want to >>> offer millions of players? Not only the poor servers, but all the game >>> modes are straight up broken. 10v10 casual with 15+ VAR and 3 minute (feels >>> like 3 hours) rounds and team tagging? TEAM deathmatch with basically >>> unlimited spawn protection? Gungame where everyone has wallhacks on the >>> leader? Communities all offer these experiences but improved in every way, >>> shape, and form. Why give 7,920,278 players last month such a god awful >>> experience for no reason whatsoever? >>> >>> >>> >>> Sorry for the wall but it's really unfair that people are in here bad >>> mouthing others when we are all in the same fight with a company who let us >>> keep their game alive for 12 years while they did nothing then essentially >>> stole all the community ideas, monetized them while giving minimal profit >>> share (yes, minimal is better than the none they were making before), and >>> are now telling us what we can and can't do with the things we developed >>> and worked hard towards. Comon guys, yall are better than this. YOU TOO >>> VALVE, I know behind the name you are actual people a with conscience. You >>> are doing just fine, stop making life harder for us PLEASE. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 8:44 AM, Freehugs < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks for the update! >>> >>> We'll have these plugins removed from our servers by the end of the week >>> :) >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> View this message in context: >>> http://csgo-servers.1073505.n5.nabble.com/Request-to-Server-Operators-tp9684p9764.html >>> Sent from the CSGO_Servers mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Csgo_servers mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Csgo_servers mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Csgo_servers mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Csgo_servers mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Csgo_servers mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Csgo_servers mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >> > > _______________________________________________ > Csgo_servers mailing list > [email protected] > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >
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