You missed the point. If you cant understand what is being said dont chime in with unrelated nonsense.
What I'm saying is Valve needs action what they are planning soon because the communities still using this stuff have taken all the traffic from the communities that comply. Valve cant threaten and then say we will monitor and take action if required. That is scare mongering propaganda. Either take action or we will put up our said plugins again and stick the finger up. <div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: sergiusz majer <[email protected]> </div><div>Date:15/07/2015 23:53 (GMT+10:00) </div><div>To: [email protected] </div><div>Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] Request to Server Operators </div><div> </div>Seriously, its just weapon skins. Play for the game play, this is not a big deal. On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 6:53 AM, Ejziponken - <[email protected]> wrote: I kinda agree with this. A community that follows Valves wishes suffers because servers that dont, get more players. You need to follow up on those who dont follow the rules and punish them otherwise this is just crap. Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 19:01:53 +1000 From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] Request to Server Operators I feel atm Valve has turned communities against each other. You have communities respecting Valves wishes while a majority don't. The communities which comply get angry at others who don't because all their traffic is lost. If a report server option was added for this you would have communities complying doing Valves dirty work hunting servers which don't comply to report them. An example of this is water rights in some places like India. First water is free to take from any river you choose. Next your not allowed to. Next farmers can get rights to use water. You end with farmers literally killing poor families trying to "steal" water from "thier" rivers because these families have no other means to obtain it. Valve. Dont ask communities to comply and expect us to be manipulated to into fighting with each other. We are not some fucked up social experiment for your propaganda. -------- Original message -------- From: Michael Loveless Date:14/07/2015 23:26 (GMT+10:00) To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] Request to Server Operators I understand that even as community server operators, many of us are in direct competition with each other for traffic, loyal patrons, market share, whatever. But at the end of the day we are all part of what is a clearly dying breed and I think that in a time like this it's completely unnecessary for anyone to come in here to bad mouth others and be disrespectful about the potential quality of someone's community because they are upset that of all things Valve chooses to contact us about... it's regarding non-marketable versions of skins and not about any one of the optimization, performance, or gameplay issues that have plagued servers for the past 3 years. Not everyone is in a niche environment with their servers with die hard community members. Many of us compete in a high demand "game mode market" (5v5, dm, 1v1, etc..) that doesn't offer a lot of wiggle room for uniqueness to the extent that it completely sets us apart from others. Even having little things like vanilla knives which aren't in a player's inventory, and obviously doesn't give them a false sense of ownership, are just nice little things that don't change the game play experience but offer a little extra for players to enjoy while on our servers. Does wanting that on our servers, which has ZERO effect on how much money friggin Valve makes, mean we should be subject to hate and shit talk from people who are essentially doing the same thing we are but have a different view on the matter? We are all struggling for the same thing, a little piece of the pie and to create an enjoyable environment doing something we love. The enemy here is not each other. Valve may not necessarily be the enemy but there is absolutely no denying that they are going out of there way to shut out communities and that's what we should be pissed about, not that some people want a !knife plugin and others think that we are shitty owners for wanting it. We all know how each of the past 2 Operations have been entirely geared towards official servers. We all know the new XP system has taken that a step further. Those are 2 major obstacles community servers have to overcome. Then comes the part about drops. You get something like 4 per week on community servers (or outside the XP system), which is perfectly fine, but jesus christ can we stop getting 5 Operation-old cases that hardly sell for .03 on the market? Couldn't we get a few new collections of mostly junk skins to replace the original junk skins (sand dunes, contractors, etc.)? How about a NEW E SPORTS CASE? That is a community driven product that not only helps community servers, but helps pro players and organizations, as well as feeds the most important entity of them all...Valve. What gets me the most is why Valve wants to kill off community servers in favor of their own. Their servers are literally an expense. Without ads there is zero monetization. Sure, buying the Operation pass is profit and can certainly afford them servers...but their servers put another negative mark on their already extensive list of reasons why people hate them for the things going on in this game. They force players onto these shit casual servers where the VAR is literally stuck in the yellow and it feels like you are playing on a Gameboy Color. Why is this the experience they want to offer millions of players? Not only the poor servers, but all the game modes are straight up broken. 10v10 casual with 15+ VAR and 3 minute (feels like 3 hours) rounds and team tagging? TEAM deathmatch with basically unlimited spawn protection? Gungame where everyone has wallhacks on the leader? Communities all offer these experiences but improved in every way, shape, and form. Why give 7,920,278 players last month such a god awful experience for no reason whatsoever? Sorry for the wall but it's really unfair that people are in here bad mouthing others when we are all in the same fight with a company who let us keep their game alive for 12 years while they did nothing then essentially stole all the community ideas, monetized them while giving minimal profit share (yes, minimal is better than the none they were making before), and are now telling us what we can and can't do with the things we developed and worked hard towards. Comon guys, yall are better than this. YOU TOO VALVE, I know behind the name you are actual people a with conscience. You are doing just fine, stop making life harder for us PLEASE. On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 8:44 AM, Freehugs <[email protected]> wrote: Thanks for the update! We'll have these plugins removed from our servers by the end of the week :) -- View this message in context: http://csgo-servers.1073505.n5.nabble.com/Request-to-Server-Operators-tp9684p9764.html Sent from the CSGO_Servers mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ Csgo_servers mailing list [email protected] https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers _______________________________________________ Csgo_servers mailing list [email protected] https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers _______________________________________________ Csgo_servers mailing list [email protected] https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers
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