Where exactly did I say those were not cheats? On Thursday, October 8, 2015, Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek < [email protected]> wrote:
> According to you the following things are not cheats: > > -Material hacks that recolor players so they can be spotted more easily > -Aim assist (because hey, that's where the player wanted to aim anyway) > -Changing footstep sounds > > -Anything that takes information that is available on the client-side in > some way (hey, that would include all hacks) and makes it (more) available > to the player. > > You should know that compared to predators (i.e. cats) the human brain is > pretty inaccurate when it comes to localizing sounds. This gets exaggerated > by the individual sound setup, as we position sounds by how much time > difference the brain is able to measure between the sound reaching both > ears and the difference in volume. Plus, true surround sound headsets do > not exist (manufacturers claim of having 5.1 capable products, however the > number of individual speakers is below that). Shitty on-board sound which > almost everybody uses adds to this as well. I doubt the source engine > actually delays the arrival of sound between the two ears according to > positions (it would be nice to know), so the localization would solely be > based on the volume difference. > Now if I turn down the music volume, I have the overall ambient sound > (which I can ignore), and the sounds of all player interactions. So there > is actually barely any noise to distinguish. This is f-ing accurate, even > in a non-competitive crowded setting Sonic Radar Demo 720 > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSZbQK4RAgQ> Asus Sonic Radar II - > Counter Strike Global Offensive by PCLab.pl > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QYR9DiqeE4> > > @Michael: I think you should email this to a dev then, or whoever is > responsible for vac. > > On 08.10.2015 22:19, Brendan wrote: > > This software is not a cheat. This software simply displays information > that the player already has in a different way. According to demos I've > seen, this software is not capable of distinguishing footsteps from ambient > sounds, actions, and music. That means a player would have to distinguish > signal (footsteps) from a huge amount of noise. Our brains already have > very accurate algorithms to determine the direction sound is coming from. > This software is really nothing more then a marketing gimmick. > > Have you ever considered that the individual in your clan is using actual > cheats and using this software as an excuse for only playing MM and not > leagues? I have a hard time believing that this software could give any > sort of significant edge. > ________________ > > > On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek < > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>[email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: > >> I thought this was csgo_servers? >> You might be better off mentioning this on reddit or directly asking >> tournament officials about this. >> >> But yes, this sounds like a cheat. ("I get it!") >> >> >> On 08.10.2015 20:10, Michael Loveless wrote: >> >> I'm curious what some of you think about this? >> >> <http://rog.asus.com/technology/rog-sound-innovations/sonic-radar/> >> http://rog.asus.com/technology/rog-sound-innovations/sonic-radar/ >> >> >> I'm finding out that someone in my clan has been using this for quite >> some time. The kid has the game sense of a cheese sandwich but always >> knows where people are. He plays in no competitive leagues at all, just a >> matchmaking god. >> >> Right in it's description in the link it tells you flat out that it gives >> you an advantage in certain scenarios and also enhances/pinpoints footstep >> sound. >> >> Here is a snippet from the link that bothers me the most: >> >> "Sonic radar gives a strategic advantage on some very particular moments >> such as: >> >> - being threatened from outside the gamers sight range (draw distance)" >> >> That is fucked. It's completely toggleable as well. Maybe someone here >> has better insight on this and why it's allowed when on the surface it >> seems to be on the same level as ESP, radar, or any other cheat that >> detects players positions. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Csgo_servers mailing [email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Csgo_servers mailing list >> [email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Csgo_servers mailing [email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers > > > -- ________________
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