Because obviously this is the csgo_servers list.
BTW are you by any chance this brenhein?
http://bans.trashedgamers.org/index.php?p=banlist&advSearch=brenhein&advType=name
Nice try, bb.
On 08.10.2015 23:22, Brendan wrote:
But this software does not make it more available, it just displays
information in a different way. I don't see how this discourse is
"derailing" because it is directly related to the topic.
On Thursday, October 8, 2015, Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
By saying that a software or modification that meets this criteria
is not a cheat:
-Anything that takes information that is available on the
client-side in some way (hey, that would include all hacks) and
makes it (more) available to the player.
Feel free to personally email me outside this list if you require
more explanation. I'm not participating in further derailment
here, which I have the feeling is your actual intention.
On 08.10.2015 23:04, Brendan wrote:
Where exactly did I say those were not cheats?
On Thursday, October 8, 2015, Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek
<[email protected]
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote:
According to you the following things are not cheats:
-Material hacks that recolor players so they can be spotted
more easily
-Aim assist (because hey, that's where the player wanted to
aim anyway)
-Changing footstep sounds
-Anything that takes information that is available on the
client-side in some way (hey, that would include all hacks)
and makes it (more) available to the player.
You should know that compared to predators (i.e. cats) the
human brain is pretty inaccurate when it comes to localizing
sounds. This gets exaggerated by the individual sound setup,
as we position sounds by how much time difference the brain
is able to measure between the sound reaching both ears and
the difference in volume. Plus, true surround sound headsets
do not exist (manufacturers claim of having 5.1 capable
products, however the number of individual speakers is below
that). Shitty on-board sound which almost everybody uses adds
to this as well. I doubt the source engine actually delays
the arrival of sound between the two ears according to
positions (it would be nice to know), so the localization
would solely be based on the volume difference.
Now if I turn down the music volume, I have the overall
ambient sound (which I can ignore), and the sounds of all
player interactions. So there is actually barely any noise to
distinguish. This is f-ing accurate, even in a
non-competitive crowded setting Sonic Radar Demo 720
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSZbQK4RAgQ> Asus Sonic
Radar II - Counter Strike Global Offensive by PCLab.pl
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QYR9DiqeE4>
@Michael: I think you should email this to a dev then, or
whoever is responsible for vac.
On 08.10.2015 22:19, Brendan wrote:
This software is not a cheat. This software simply displays
information that the player already has in a different way.
According to demos I've seen, this software is not capable
of distinguishing footsteps from ambient sounds, actions,
and music. That means a player would have to distinguish
signal (footsteps) from a huge amount of noise. Our brains
already have very accurate algorithms to determine the
direction sound is coming from. This software is really
nothing more then a marketing gimmick.
Have you ever considered that the individual in your clan is
using actual cheats and using this software as an excuse for
only playing MM and not leagues? I have a hard time
believing that this software could give any sort of
significant edge.
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On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Matthias "InstantMuffin"
Kollek <[email protected]> wrote:
I thought this was csgo_servers?
You might be better off mentioning this on reddit or
directly asking tournament officials about this.
But yes, this sounds like a cheat. ("I get it!")
On 08.10.2015 20:10, Michael Loveless wrote:
I'm curious what some of you think about this?
http://rog.asus.com/technology/rog-sound-innovations/sonic-radar/
I'm finding out that someone in my clan has been using
this for quite some time. The kid has the game sense of
a cheese sandwich but always knows where people are. He
plays in no competitive leagues at all, just a
matchmaking god.
Right in it's description in the link it tells you flat
out that it gives you an advantage in certain scenarios
and also enhances/pinpoints footstep sound.
Here is a snippet from the link that bothers me the most:
"Sonic radar gives a strategic advantage on some very
particular moments such as:
- being threatened from outside the gamers sight range
(draw distance)"
That is fucked. It's completely toggleable as well.
Maybe someone here has better insight on this and why
it's allowed when on the surface it seems to be on the
same level as ESP, radar, or any other cheat that
detects players positions.
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