Im sure there are servers out there that fits your needs. Its still a players choice and ads to not limit that.We are hosting like over 30 DM servers. People dont want cosy gameplay experience on those. They want warmup and practise to get better. How does ads on my servers harm yours?
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 00:39:49 +0100 From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] Latest steam update broke the webkit in-game It goes way deeper than this. Advertisements allow communities to grow beyond what I consider healthy. Call me old fashion, but In my opinion online gaming (for hlds/scrds games) was a much, much better experience prior to ads and quick-play. The numbers are quite simple, using Niko as example. What do you think would provide a better experience to gamers, 1 community hosting 109 servers, or 50 communities hosting 2 servers each with their own views and values? Choice is what we had on offer. The big guys are the only ones profiting from the current model. It’s extremely harmful to smaller clans and communities who barely stand a chance against it. Saint K. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ejziponken - Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 12:32 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] Latest steam update broke the webkit in-game I kinda agree with you. If you dont like ads when you surf the internet you use adblocker for your browser. If you dont like ads on game-servers, you change server.If you do like the community and want to support them you can change the filter in the adblocker to allow ads showing for that community. Thats what I do. I know the community Im a part of needs the ad money so I dont use adblocker on that site. Its my choice and the players have the same choice. You dont have to agree about ads in MOTD. Just accept that its a good and working solution for some and others not. From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 00:22:40 +0100 Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] Latest steam update broke the webkit in-gameYou’re trying to tell me how to run a community, yet I run one since 2009.My servers have been ranked top1 for long periods and my best server is still ranked 9th worldwide.Here are some of the servers we host for my community, my secondary community and our clients (that don’t pay a single cent to run the servers):https://scrn.storni.info/2015-12-15_00-11-3450.png We guarantee to each of our 109 running servers the best uptime possible, low latency, stable framerate, availability in America and Europe and DDoS protection.My forum (https://forum.elite-hunterz.info/forum.php) has “only” 2514 members and we received donations for more than 4000€ during the past years. I know how to run a community, and my community is very happy at the current state. I still think you’re wrong and selfish for telling others how to run a community JUST because your strategy works.In real life there is not just ONE strategy, there are many. Look at Google, running one of the biggest empires out there JUST with ads. Then look at apple, running another empire by overcharging customers.Or look at Finland, taxing the hell out of people but giving them paid education, free healthcare and much more, then look at the US having low taxes but more complementary services that you can pay for. My point is that yes, your strategy might work, but there are other strategies out there and we’re free to use them as long as we have players playing on our servers and they accept them. Best regards,Niko From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Saint K. Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 12:12 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] Latest steam update broke the webkit in-game Let me run it down real quick for you. People would donate (and still do, by the way) for the experience of having a nice home to play their games at. Providing the server is just one of the few things you do as game-community host. Besides the server, you organize things to do for your community members, things such as tournaments, playnights, etc. Together you build a clan or community based on your values of life. This also created a wide diversity among the communities and clans, everyone had a place to go to feel home. Some clans and communities were all about serious stuff, competitions, etc. Others about just fun. Some were about specific types of people finding a place together. Together you build your community including your servers. And by building this you gain supporters, people willing to pay a few bucks a month to chip in for any cost. That is how you run a community or clan based on group funding instead of adwhoring your servers. This is how you create and maintain a healthy community around games (such examples, gladly, are still around. Just look at the hostable games which don’t include the option for ads. The communities around those games are much healthier, the servers are much more enjoyable and you get to bond as group much faster as well) Saint K. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 12:00 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] Latest steam update broke the webkit in-game Willing to pay for what?Nowadays anything “cool” is illegal or not worth donating for.You tell me how much of a content on surf servers can be provided for money.Plus, on top of frequent players, there are a lot of new players that just come for a while, then disconnect and show up after only weeks. These will never donate any money but they still use my services. For example I run several 24/7 surf servers that only play one map. Why? Because players want to be able to surf without interruptions on a single map. What am I supposed to do if I want to serve 10 different maps both in EU and US? If you enjoy serving these servers with either loss or no gain at all then I’m happy for you. In my case I am a university student and even going to Mc Donald’s is something I have to be careful with since money doesn’t grow on trees in my country, therefore I see advertising as a very optimal solution to my problems. You don’t like it? Feel free to black list my servers. But don’t come judging us for our financial strategy. Back on topic: there was a steam update about an hour ago, however that didn’t fix the issue. BR,Niko Also @Neuro, while I agree, I think you just contributed to the spam using that tone. _______________________________________________ Csgo_servers mailing list [email protected] https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers
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