On 2/14/06, francky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In FF Developers mode (edit css):
> (1) without "fixed" for the bg-image there is also the grey under part -
> because of the fixed 100% height of the .master-form (outer container).
> The min-height of the inner .pagecontainer then doesn't help (doesn't
> stretch the outer one with white bg and the globe).

yes the grey still exists, but the image doesn't get covered up.  i
should have been more specific - my apologies there.


> (2) replacing by .master-form { min-height: 100%; }does work in FF.
> - Didn't test in real circumstances.

i had to give .master-form a fixed 100% height or the footer wouldn't
stay at the bottom.  getting that footer to stick at all was a big
task for me because i can't get rid of that .master-form form. 
asp.net requires it to be there, so it makes having a footer a big
headache when all other examples of footers don't have that extra
container to work with.  i'm currently using the FooterStickAlt
method, tweaked a smidge.

if i give .master-form a min-height instead of a height, the footer
ceases to stay at the bottom of viewport or content - whichever is
visually lowest on the screen.  the page put up for example here is
one of the very few that will be scrolling in an 800x600 screen.

[here's a happy tidbit for everyone - my boss actually mandated that
the site work (and furthermore not scroll) in 800x600.  ;) 
Unfortunately, of course, his target browser is IE, but he's a realist
- that's what all of our customers have.  <sigh>]


> @IE:
> Assuming it is impossible in your content-management ("as usual") to
> hang the bg-img in the body, I'm afraid it only can be realized with
> javascript... and even then not too good / more distrurbing then when
> scrolling with the content (think "dancing globe" or "hopping globe" at
> scrolling, and with some retarding, because of js-counting the whole
> rather big image px by px (before rendering) at every distance you
> scroll down or up.
> Or perhaps a proprietary IE thing which I don't know (Googled the
> MSDN-database already?).

i knew there was a reason i had to keep that globe on body.  <another
sigh>  as you can see i did mess it up when i moved it, though when i
put it back on body i have no idea how i can create the fixed-width
page at resolutions over 1024 like i currently have (though the max
isn't 1024 in the test page).  as you probably noticed the text starts
to get really long on large screens with the browser maximized when
you take out the max-width.


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assuming i rework my whole theme framework (joy) to accomodate moving
backgrounds around, is there any way i can get:

- a fixed globe at the bottom of the viewport (preferably above the
footer if the footer is showing) without putting the globe in the
footer (because other themes use the footer and i can't really change
that one part)

- a max width of 1,000px with a color on the outside and the globe
showing inside of the content area instead of on top of or behind the
outside coloring (which it's doing now at larger browser sizes).

- footer sticks at the bottom (like it does now).  i know
.master-form's specified height ruins some fixes for the globe, but i
don't know of another way that would work for the footer.
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

@francky - as always, your help is appreciated more than i can say.
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