I'm a Mac user now, was Linux full time for quite a while. I keep a
laptop handy to check windows browsers. I use FF for everyday life and
doing my HTML and CSS.
It's interesting coming back to front end stuff, I wonder how many
here use Vim as their HTML/CSS editor? I'm so hooked!

I find this thread interesting, thanks for the encouragment.

- JJ

On 10/24/06, Shelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> *Exactly* what Rimantas said.  I have found that the majority of people
> who say "CSS is too hard" or put up arguments for not using it (like "oh
> to make that work in that browser I'll need this work around, or it's
> going to do this or that" LOL) are generally people who haven't really
> given it a shot.  This includes people who are new to it (which is a
> common first reaction, but they'll learn) as well as people who tried it
> once for a day or two and just gave up because they wanted to "get it"
> instantly (those are the *fun* ones to discuss it with!)
>
> Once you get CSS - it's like riding a bike.  You *get* it.  And then you
> start wanting to know and understand more.  And the more you "get" the
> better you get at it.  For me, it took a couple of months before the
> light bulb switched on over my head, and thanks to the past years of
> learning, reading, and soaking up whatever I could wherever I could
> (this list, too!), I usually get hired by design houses that want to go
> tableless.  Many times (especially when I see responses here from Georg
> or francky - among others, and remember who actually runs this list) I
> feel like I know nothing - until I speak with someone who's in the same
> spot I was five years ago.  I may not know as much as a lot of these
> guys, but I *do* know enough that my skills are sought after enough to
> pay for my family vacations (and electronic goodies of all sorts that
> are around the house!)
>
> But *exactly* what he said - the *biggest* mistake you can make is to
> design for IE and then fix the other browsers later.  The second biggest
> mistake is to wait until the site is completely finished before you
> start validating your CSS and markup (you should be doing that all along
> to save yourself a visit to the hospital from head trauma via "banging
> your head on the desk")
>
> CSS is awesome.  It's been so long since I've used a table that I
> actually have to look up old tutorials now to see how they're done ;)
> And for the record, usually when I find myself needing to use a hack,
> it's only for IE5 on a Mac - and even then it's rare.
>
> ~Shelly
>
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