@JJ: I use pretty much the same setup. Only now I need another laptop for IE7 :). Vim on Mac doesn't sit tight for me... I use BBEdit (intelligent collapsing and, as far as I'm concerned, cleanest & simplest interface around).
Shelly's spot on. I know a lot of developers who're just baffled at the concept of CSS (style? developers? hehehe), but if you read through w3c's glossaries and write to standard (ie Firefox) - afterwards the logic employed by IE is an interesting challenge :). Regards, Barney Css Discuss wrote: > I'm a Mac user now, was Linux full time for quite a while. I keep a > laptop handy to check windows browsers. I use FF for everyday life and > doing my HTML and CSS. > It's interesting coming back to front end stuff, I wonder how many > here use Vim as their HTML/CSS editor? I'm so hooked! > > I find this thread interesting, thanks for the encouragment. > > - JJ > > On 10/24/06, Shelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> *Exactly* what Rimantas said. I have found that the majority of people >> who say "CSS is too hard" or put up arguments for not using it (like "oh >> to make that work in that browser I'll need this work around, or it's >> going to do this or that" LOL) are generally people who haven't really >> given it a shot. This includes people who are new to it (which is a >> common first reaction, but they'll learn) as well as people who tried it >> once for a day or two and just gave up because they wanted to "get it" >> instantly (those are the *fun* ones to discuss it with!) >> >> Once you get CSS - it's like riding a bike. You *get* it. And then you >> start wanting to know and understand more. And the more you "get" the >> better you get at it. For me, it took a couple of months before the >> light bulb switched on over my head, and thanks to the past years of >> learning, reading, and soaking up whatever I could wherever I could >> (this list, too!), I usually get hired by design houses that want to go >> tableless. Many times (especially when I see responses here from Georg >> or francky - among others, and remember who actually runs this list) I >> feel like I know nothing - until I speak with someone who's in the same >> spot I was five years ago. I may not know as much as a lot of these >> guys, but I *do* know enough that my skills are sought after enough to >> pay for my family vacations (and electronic goodies of all sorts that >> are around the house!) >> >> But *exactly* what he said - the *biggest* mistake you can make is to >> design for IE and then fix the other browsers later. The second biggest >> mistake is to wait until the site is completely finished before you >> start validating your CSS and markup (you should be doing that all along >> to save yourself a visit to the hospital from head trauma via "banging >> your head on the desk") >> >> CSS is awesome. It's been so long since I've used a table that I >> actually have to look up old tutorials now to see how they're done ;) >> And for the record, usually when I find myself needing to use a hack, >> it's only for IE5 on a Mac - and even then it's rare. >> >> ~Shelly ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
