It was the development farm of a mobile operator in Asia.  The last thing we
were busy with was the migration to an all IP network for the operator.
Effectively our java code will soon be handling all the logic for everything
that handles in that operator, from call setup, routing, metering, real-time
charging, etc, etc.

On 5/22/07, Brian Silberbauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> OK Alwyn, what on earth were you doing?
>
>
> On 5/22/07, Alwyn Schoeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > At my previous company I had a development farm of 70 dual Xeon servers
> with
> > 3 TB of emc2 data.  That whole setup cost us $1M.  We could run the
> world's
> > traffic departments with
> > that system with servers to spare.
> >
> > We also only used Oracle to run the whole company's services to 20
> million
> > customers.  I can try and find out what the fees were, but I doubt
> eNATIS
> > comes anywhere close in licensing requirements...
> >
> >
> >  On 5/22/07, Brian Silberbauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > There is the matter of the Oracle license fee, any guesses how much
> > > that contract would be worth? There must have been a substantial
> > > hardware cost too.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 5/21/07, Alwyn Schoeman < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > I'm sorry, but open source != huge budget, not at the service levels
> > they
> > > > are achieving.
> > > > So I would assume 99% of the budget went into pockets.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 5/21/07, Jeff Mutonho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On 5/21/07, Boniface Kabaso <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Just want to ask a question about the eNatis. I was listening on
> the
> > > > radio
> > > > > > while driving home to the eNatis guy saying something like they
> have
> > > > > > increased their server capacity and that it should sort out the
> > current
> > > > > > problems they are experiencing. They actually had to take the
> system
> > > > offline
> > > > > > to do that! It struck me like they were having some serious
> > scalability
> > > > > > issues and just wondered why these tests were not made during
> > > > development
> > > > > > considering the budget they had.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anyway, just out of curiosity, does anybody on this forum know
> what
> > > > > > technology is behind eNatis, ie J2EE, .NET, CORBA or some
> > proprietary
> > > > > > client/server or internet technology?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For those that have been  too busy hacking away at your projects
> to
> > > > notice
> > > > > > what is going on, eNatis is the Government's new electronic
> national
> > > > traffic
> > > > > > information system that is supposed to solve most of the
> problems in
> > the
> > > > > > traffic department that deal with vehicle registration and all,
> > bringing
> > > > in
> > > > > > benefits like transactions processing  through  ATMs and the
> > internet.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Boniface
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > Does the following point you in the right direction?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > 1)http://forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jsp?forum=83&thread=222641
> > > > >
> > > > > 2)"Vorster explains eNatis is based on "free and open source
> software"
> > > > > and the "open source footprint of the project is constantly
> > > > > increased". Familiar software includes Java and RedHat Enterprise
> > > > > Linux as the operating system for application servers in the data
> > > > > centre and disaster recovery centre, as well as in the
> fault-logging
> > > > > system, and JasperReports as report-generating technology."
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > (
> >
> http://www.itweb.co.za/sections/business/2007/0704231035.asp?S=IT%20in%20Government&A=ITG&O=FRGN
> > > > )
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Don't take the name of root in vain."
> > > > >
> > > > > Jeff  Mutonho
> > > > > Cape Town
> > > > > South Africa
> > > > >
> > > > > GoogleTalk : ejbengine
> > > > > Skype        : ejbengine
> > > > > Registered Linux user number 366042
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Alwyn Schoeman
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Brian Silberbauer
> > > Consultant
> > >
> > > +27 (0)83 566 2705
> > > skype: brian.silberbauer
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> Brian Silberbauer
> Consultant
>
> +27 (0)83 566 2705
> skype: brian.silberbauer
>
> >
>


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