> JFormDesigner + JGoodies are my friends.
JGoodies is excellent. I think Netbeans 6.0 with JSRs 295 and 296 will make GUI programming really easy. i'm on those JSR EGs (as is karsten lensch) but actually i didn't contribute anything but ssh ssh ;) I think karsten is incorporating those JSRs into JGoodies, so... Also Netbeans comes with Toplink JPA and JavaDB bundled and tooled in, so it just can't get any easier, and this is really great for developers that want to get up and running with minimum of hassles altho i personally tend to implement GUIs by hand, i really think developers should be using Netbeans for Swing GUIs. I'm assuming Sun will add JavaFX support to Netbeans as well, to make it as easy as humanly possible to develop RIAs. Personally i'm happy with straight Java/Swing, but javaFX/consumerJRE efforts benefits all java platform languages innit, and not least java/swing/applets/webstart so that suits me :) i'm not a web developer and haven't used GWT (or Echo2). It sounds like a nice toolkit to (hopefully) avoid browser differences, and be coding in java rather than HTML/javascript, with IDE and everything that gives, eg. code navigation, debugging, refactoring, etcetera, etcetera. But i think complexity should be avoided whenever possible, and straight java/swing is surely simpler than java to javascript compilation. but people who know say it's not possible to use swing for a very consumerish website eg. because of download size, installation problems etcetera. But there are very many intranet database applications, that all tend to get written as web applications, will all the complexities of HTML/CSS/ajax. Why people don't develop these applications using swing/webstart is beyond me! ;) i expect in future we'll see more RIAs written in swing, running inside and outside the browser. When outside the browser, the question is, does that qualify as an RIA? i think it should eg. for internet client applications, using REST/HTTP/WS to communicate with a webserver. e ----------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Obsidian SWiTCH web-mail. Obsidian SWiTCH - an Obsidian Systems company. (0860) 055-911 - http://www.switch-it.co.za/ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "CTJUG Forum" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/CTJUG-Forum For the ctjug home page see http://www.ctjug.org.za -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
