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From: day <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > From: nessie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > These guys are all DEAD! So are  Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha, and Marx.
>
>   Jesus is alive and well, thank you!

First graffiti: JESUS LIVES IN MY HEART!
Next graffiti:  Watch out; if He gets stuck in an artery, you'll die.

Buddha lives.  Muhammad lives.  Lao Tzu lives.  John Lennon lives.
De Sade lives.  Caesar lives.  Sappho lives.  Garelamaisama lives.
All icons and memes live.  Marx isn't do so well at the moment, tho.

> > Are we to let dead men think for us? Or are we going to think for
> > ourselves?
>
>   And, he doesn't think for us....he guides us, strengthens
>   us, and teaches us forgiveness.....and we need all that strength
>   and foregiveness to tolerate the liberals.

Yeshua [Jesus] is claimed by liberals, moderates, conservatives,
reactionaries, idealists, racists, pacifists, warmongers, dweebs,
UFOlogists, pantheists, Baha'is, Mormons, and multitudes of others.
Whatever of his is 'taught' obviously isn't very clear.  Of course,
the fundy jeezoid criminal conspiracy bent on imposing their very
authoritarian views upon humanity would have us think otherwise, eh?

But then, Yeshua himself was part of a 'criminal conspiracy' or
'national liberation movement' or 'band of bandits' [depending on
who you ask], the Jewish Revolt, violent militants bent on ridding
their Holy Land of Hellenes, Romans, Armenians and other outsiders.
Thus Yeshua is recorded to have consorted closely with a Zealot
[terrorist] and an Iscariot [short-sword assassin], as well as
representatives of the Fisher's Guild [at a time when fishing in
Palestine was being forcibly converted from an off-season pursuit
by farmers into factory-fishing for delicacies to appease the
gullets of Imperial demand.]  RENDER UNTO CAESAR THAT WHICH IS
CAESAR'S - and since Israel/Judea belonged to {YHWH}, NOTHING
there was Caesar's - an open call to tax revolt, eh?  I COME NOT
TO BREAK HOLY LAW [Torah] BUT TO SUSTAIN IT - that is, back to
Hebraic fundamentals.  Not exactly words of toleration, eh?

When you ignore the context of the times, it's easy to say that
Jesus 'teaches' something or other, usually whatever whomever's
citing Jesus wishes to emphasize.  Look at the history, and it's
a lot clearer - Yeshua's conspiracy was crushed by the Romans,
his movement was co-opted by Graeco/Roman forces, and that old
Hellenic conspiracy is still active today.  Can't we move on?

Ric "God was my copilot but we crashed in the Andes & I ate Her" Carter

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