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> -Caveat Lector-
>
> On 11 Nov 99, at 6:50, Das GOAT wrote:
>
> > .. The Clinton administration's use of such drastic means
> > >for a so-called "economic" conference has raised questions about
> > >state-sponsored commercial espionage. Is export money enough
> > >justification to use children as sex-slaves and spies?
> >
> > How naive can we be? In the underworld economy of espionage and organized
> > crime, which are almost indistinguishable, the primary currencies used are
> > not ONLY "illegal drugs" and "black-market weapons." Just as valuable as
> > either is SEX -- but, especially when sex is routine and cheap, for "sex"
> > to have ANY value as a currency, it MUST be "taboo" sex, forbidden by law
> > or just by normal (public) moral standards -- a kind of rare "delicacy,"
> > obtainable only by the the ultra-rich or the ultra-privileged, for whom
> > being able to push the envelope of the "permissible" to the EXTREME is an
> > essential definer of "elite" status. (Power isn't really "power" unless
> > one is free --FREE-- to ABUSE it.) In more Victorian times, the "buzz"
> > used to be homosexuality. Today it's pedophilia. OF COURSE it's not only
> > immoral but ILLEGAL The flip side of POWER is its RISK -- so one is never
> > welcomed into the circle of the powerful except by double-edged gifts
> > which can, if PUBLICLY revealed, DESTROY one. "Secret societies" are
> > "secret" for a good practical reason. Shared GUILT is a strong BOND and
> > GUARANTEES silence.
>
> Wouldn't it be interesting if Clinton got to take the fall for
> this....which has been going on for decades, certainly through the
> two previous Republican administrations --if not forever.
>
> I have always thought that, in the larger picture, Clinton was a
> patsy--like Oswald--intended to take the blame for all the illegalities
> and pecadillos of Bush et al., allowing them to come back into the
> arena later looking clean.
>
> And, if this is true, you have to give him some credit for his ability
> to duck and cover. When he came into office, Clinton looked like a
> healthy young man. The pictures I see of him lately, he looks
> positively ashen and almost aged. In only a decade?
>
> Mind you, I'm not condoning these activities (which are
> horrendous), but Clinton certainly didn't invent them. Hoover might
> have gotten them from Caesar, Nero, or Calligula. And Bush
> certainly used them during the Regan era.
>
> sno0wl
>
If you read about Bush and the rest you realize that theyare shilling for someone
elses ideas.
You will need to dig deeper than that.
Piper
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The true test is to give a person power.
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Atrocities happen when the people about you - start considering you surplus.
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He told me to be in the first group -
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