Sorry June its pointless talking further, eg how do we know you aren't a CIA
agent? It obvious if you were you may know more for a start on this subject
instead of turning this into a psychological exercise in belief systems..As
for you saying I have dogma. All I said is I'm a Christian and nothing else,
the rest is your 'belief system' you so gladly promote.

Nicky wrote:
>I guess you want proof of underground Et bases too?

June wrote:
>>Yes.  Anything less is just opinion and belief, a subjective
interpretation
of limited data.  ETs are only one of many possibilities, not the only one.


Now for the next hurdle -

Nessie do you think some theorists like M Persinger have any more value than
those who have personally experienced Ets? Why trust anybody who is sitting
reading books on this subject and comparing an abductee experience to an
induced one. Sure listen to the guy but he knows no more about the 'reality'
of it than June who hasn't read much at all on this. But we do 'believe'
from others who have seen throught he deception that the US military are
faking alien abductions so they can abduct people. But there are geniune
abductions because people ahve travelled in spaceships and gone to other
planets and brought back souvenirs. Alec Newald being one.
Neither person, theorist or ignorant, can tell without being a personal
witness at the time if someone's abduction occurred. So if one person who
hasn't personally been abducted, comments on another's experience then they
actually know nothing about it.

Reasons being-
1 They have read too many books including disinfo so can't decide truth.
2.They have had drugs and think reality can't be deciphered properly because
they can't remember what it is like to have a clear mind anymore, so think
everyone else is as confused.
3.They have no firm beliefs and can't perceive another's point of view.
4.They see a scientific explanation for everything and are not able to
decipher the complexity of other dimensions and a person's direct experience
of them.
5. They are unable to see beyond themselves to be objective about Earth and
its manifold off planet guided expressions of evolution to perfection.

Nicky


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Subject: Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
>what different things do you think the UFOs are?



See: http://www.sfbg.com/nessie/15.html

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