Nicky; No one can say whether someone was abducted by aliens or if the thing was
induced, especially from a thrid party point examination. That is the whole point.
IF the experience CAN be induced, and you admit it can, then this is a logical
explanation which requires no aliens at all. On the other hand the idea that "aliens"
ARE abducting people just as these experiencers say they are that cannot be refuted
completely, thus it remains a POSSIBILITY.
On Thu, 01 June 2000, Nicky Molloy wrote:
>
> Sorry June its pointless talking further, eg how do we know you aren't a CIA
> agent? It obvious if you were you may know more for a start on this subject
> instead of turning this into a psychological exercise in belief systems..As
> for you saying I have dogma. All I said is I'm a Christian and nothing else,
> the rest is your 'belief system' you so gladly promote.
>
> Nicky wrote:
> >I guess you want proof of underground Et bases too?
>
> June wrote:
> >>Yes. Anything less is just opinion and belief, a subjective
> interpretation
> of limited data. ETs are only one of many possibilities, not the only one.
>
>
> Now for the next hurdle -
>
> Nessie do you think some theorists like M Persinger have any more value than
> those who have personally experienced Ets? Why trust anybody who is sitting
> reading books on this subject and comparing an abductee experience to an
> induced one. Sure listen to the guy but he knows no more about the 'reality'
> of it than June who hasn't read much at all on this. But we do 'believe'
> from others who have seen throught he deception that the US military are
> faking alien abductions so they can abduct people. But there are geniune
> abductions because people ahve travelled in spaceships and gone to other
> planets and brought back souvenirs. Alec Newald being one.
> Neither person, theorist or ignorant, can tell without being a personal
> witness at the time if someone's abduction occurred. So if one person who
> hasn't personally been abducted, comments on another's experience then they
> actually know nothing about it.
>
> Reasons being-
> 1 They have read too many books including disinfo so can't decide truth.
> 2.They have had drugs and think reality can't be deciphered properly because
> they can't remember what it is like to have a clear mind anymore, so think
> everyone else is as confused.
> 3.They have no firm beliefs and can't perceive another's point of view.
> 4.They see a scientific explanation for everything and are not able to
> decipher the complexity of other dimensions and a person's direct experience
> of them.
> 5. They are unable to see beyond themselves to be objective about Earth and
> its manifold off planet guided expressions of evolution to perfection.
>
> Nicky
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nessie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
> >what different things do you think the UFOs are?
>
>
>
> See: http://www.sfbg.com/nessie/15.html
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