-Caveat Lector- On Sat, 1 Sep 2001, Bill Howard wrote: >A house fire is usually not intense enough to distroy completely a human >body. So the question remains, where is the body? Yes, a crematorium takes hours to completely consume a human body...it would be very unlikely that such conditions existed in a house fire... Although it IS conceivable that the fire could have been hot enough to totally char the body, perhaps even consume soft tissue -- and then the collapsing 2nd story, complete with the heavy roof tiles, could have crushed the remains. So one wouldn't be looking for an intact body or skeleton, but bits and pieces of bone... >If we knew more about the deputy's wounds we would know more about who shot >him. >If the bullets went through a kevlar vest then we could assume that he was >shot with a high power weapon like a rifle/assult weapon. Hand guns usually >do not have the power to penetrate a kevlar vest. I heard that the deputy was shot in the head. Supposedly Beck was stockpiling highpowered weapons, so a shot thru a kevlar vest wouldn't necessarily exclude Beck as the shooter... If an autopsy is done on the deputy, I doubt that we will every hear about it if it is determined the bullet came from a LEO and not Beck... >If he was shot at the door or close to it, then there is a possiblity that he >could have been shot by friendly fire. The deputy was shot as he pulled up on his motorcycle, out in the street. A neighbor who was interviewed corraborated this -- she said she looked out of her window after hearing 2 or 3 shots, and saw the deputy LYING IN THE STREET, next to his motorcycle, and watched as other officers came and removed him. No shots were fired at these officers, which makes the shooting of the deputy suspicious...if Beck really did shoot him, why didn't he then snipe at the officers who came to the deputy's aid? And why would Beck shoot a deputy driving up on a motorcycle and not shoot the 2 agents at his front door who were actually serving the warrant. >Audio recording could tell us a lot. Ammo that is cooking off sounds >different from ammo that is being fired from a weapon. An audio recording >could also give us an idea as to just how much actual weapons fire there was. There was a show I saw, I believe it was MSNBC...it's actually been repeated a few times...it's one of those shows that show 'true life crime'... In this case it was about a bridal shower party in LA that got loud; a neighbor called the cops, one cop showed up and warned the party to quiet down, but for some reason the cop went back a few minutes later, claiming that someone had called the cops again complaining that the music had been turned back up. The neighbor who had made the first call said he never made a 2nd call; there is no evidence of a 2nd call being made, only this cop's word. For some reason this 2nd visit to the party turned bad; the cop called for backup, suddenly the party was swamped by dozens of police officers. The LEOs later claimed that it turned into a 'riot', and that they, the LEOs, had been pelted with rocks and bottles for 20 minutes or more, before they decided to go in and make arrests. They did more than that; they beat both men and women senseless, young and old, regardless of whether the person was 'resisting arrest' or not. One partygoer was near death, but was conscious enough to remember the paramedic who was working on him being told by a LEO NOT to render assistance to this partygoer. As luck would have it, another neighbor videotaped the whole brouhaha. When the partygoers who were arrested went to court, the case against them was thrown out. This wasn't enough for the partygoeers, who turned around and sued the LAPD. The LEOs closed ranks; stuck to the story regarding being pelted with rocks and bottles for 20 minutes; even had some officers who showed wounds from being hit by flying objects. It was the cops' word against the partygoers. Until the jury decided to pay close attention to the neighbor's videotape. As luck would have it, the tape had caught the police radio broadcast, and it showed that the cops rushed the party with billyclubs swinging only TWO MINUTES after the first cop's call for assistance. The videotape showed a neatly groomed front lawn of the residence, and a clean street in front of it; no rocks, no bottles, no broken glass to be seen. And definitely no 20 minutes of cops being pelted with rocks, bottles, and broken glass, as the cops had claimed. The jury ruled overwhelmingly in favor of the partygoers, and when interviewed for the program the jury memebers all said that it was obvious that the LAPD had lied about everything about the whole incident, to the point of either faking their wounds, or hiding the fact that LEOs with actual wounds had actually been injured by fellow officers and not by those attending the party. I suspect that if there is either an audio or videotape of Friday's incident in Santa Clarita, especially the events at the very beginning, that it could also reveal much that the LEOs perhaps don't want revealed... 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