On 11/11/16 12:16 PM, Razer wrote: > > > > On 11/11/2016 12:08 PM, Stephen D. Williams wrote: >> On 11/11/16 12:05 PM, Razer wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 11/11/2016 11:12 AM, Stephen D. Williams wrote: >>>> Specific and well-known historical record is obtuse? I don't think you >>>> know what that word means. >>>> >>>> sdw >>> >>> Yes I do. It means tangential... surrounded by blather... >>> >>> Go look it up. You bury grams of information in pounds of trash talk. >> >> No, it doesn't: >> http://www.dictionary.com/browse/obtuse >> >>> adjective >>> >>> 1. >>> not quick or alert in perception, feeling, or intellect; not sensitive or >>> observant; dull. >> >> sdw >> > > > Obtuse in a KIND OF ANGLE, STUPID.
Thanks for emphatically clarifying that you didn't know the relevant meaning. I would offer to use small words next time, but it is already a small word. Btw, even as a math term, it is used "adjectively". sdw > > No wonder you don't make any sense most of the time an our eys all glaze over > when you post. Your idiocy in using it adjectively, > despite the fact that almost NO ONE uses it that way, to fend of criticism of > your blather, IS A PRIME EXAMPLE of your Obtuseness, > adjectively. > > Rr > >>> >>> Rr >>> >>> >>>> >>>> On 11/11/16 10:54 AM, Razer wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Dude! You EXEMPLIFY "Obtuse". >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 11/11/2016 10:30 AM, Stephen D. Williams wrote: >>>>>> On 11/11/16 10:19 AM, Razer wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 11/11/2016 09:33 AM, Stephen D. Williams wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Did a Torvalds"? Are you now saying that Linus didn't contribute >>>>>>>> anything significant either? Oh my. You are so clueless. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I said or implied nothing of the sort. The implication is he took code >>>>>>> he owned and open-sourced it. I think that's pretty >>>>>>> fucking obvious troll. >>>>>> >>>>>> You said: >>>>>>> This is exactly what I mean... CERF DID NOT DEVELOP TCPIP ALONE, hence >>>>>>> all sorts of offshoots like TP-K inos, jnos etc b/c a >>>>>>> ham radio operator who was on the tcipip dev team 'did a Torvalds'. >>>>>> >>>>>> I interpreted that as: >>>>>> >>>>>> CERF DID NOT DEVELOP TCPIP ALONE ... [some implied connection] a ham >>>>>> radio operator who was on the tcipip dev team 'did a >>>>>> Torvalds'. >>>>>> >>>>>> I couldn't tell if you were referring to later implementations and use >>>>>> of things like KA9Q as somehow affecting the fact that >>>>>> he designed the protocol a decade or more earlier, or if you were saying >>>>>> that he was a ham radio operator on some team who >>>>>> took all the credit for a team effort as Linus (quite fairly) has. >>>>>> Since none of it seems very logical, and the former is >>>>>> ridiculous, I took my best guess at meaning. >>>>>> >>>>>> Misunderstanding your poor communication is not trolling. Being obtuse >>>>>> then calling misunderstandings trolling is trolling. >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Rr >>>>>> >>>>>> sdw >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> VC never said he developed TCP/IP alone, which is why I said >>>>>>>> co-invented. Of course there were previous tries at solving >>>>>>>> networking problems that were learned from, but they were flawed and >>>>>>>> we no longer use any of them. Similarly, every patent >>>>>>>> depends on the existence of prior ideas, but is recognized as being a >>>>>>>> significant leap forward. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vint_Cerf >>>>>>>>> After receiving his doctorate, Cerf became an assistant professor >>>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professor#Assistant_professor> at >>>>>>>>> Stanford University from 1972–1976, where he conducted >>>>>>>>> research on packet network interconnection protocols and co-designed >>>>>>>>> the DoD TCP/IP protocol suite with Kahn. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> TCP/IP solved, to a large extent, every core network protocol problem >>>>>>>> that needed to be solved to build a working >>>>>>>> Internet. It is amazing that very few changes were made since the >>>>>>>> first released version. We all know what we mean by >>>>>>>> "Vint Cerf invented the Internet." We know there was more to it, but >>>>>>>> what he did enabled everything else with an elegant >>>>>>>> solution. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Did a Torvalds"? Are you now saying that Linus didn't contribute >>>>>>>> anything significant either? Oh my. You are so clueless. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You're ideology is strange and not very useful. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We all wish we could have contributed as centrally to the Internet and >>>>>>>> related advances. But that doesn't mean we don't >>>>>>>> value and appreciate those who did. It could have been much worse in >>>>>>>> many ways. We could be paying packet charges to >>>>>>>> national telecoms with only centralized "security", for instance. We >>>>>>>> are very very lucky, and not in an anthropic >>>>>>>> principle way. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> sdw >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 11/11/16 9:00 AM, Razer wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This is exactly what I mean... CERF DID NOT DEVELOP TCPIP ALONE, >>>>>>>>> hence all sorts of offshoots like TP-K inos, jnos etc b/c >>>>>>>>> a ham radio operator who was on the tcipip dev team 'did a Torvalds'. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It's like saying Wozniak and Gates developed personal computers. It's >>>>>>>>> literally idiotic and historically vacant. A >>>>>>>>> stupid-ing down of the history of the internet. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 11/10/2016 09:03 PM, Stephen D. Williams wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 11/10/16 7:39 PM, Razer wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 11/10/2016 03:14 PM, Mr Harkness quoted some schmuck: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Twenty-five years ago, Berners-Lee invented the World Wide Web. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I've seen this claim about a number of different people and you >>>>>>>>>>> know? It's about as ignorant a thing to say as I can >>>>>>>>>>> imagine. One person inventing the WWW... ROTF! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> MAYBE the TERM "WWW". >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Rr >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> There are a number of well-known cases of specific individuals >>>>>>>>>> inventing or co-inventing specific components of the >>>>>>>>>> Internet and protocols on it. TBL invented the World Wide Web in a >>>>>>>>>> core and well-known specific sense. Most of us have >>>>>>>>>> read all about it and a few of us were experiencing it real-time, >>>>>>>>>> switching from FTP, telnet, and Archie to Mosaic w/ web >>>>>>>>>> pages. Vint Cerf co-invented TCP/IP, commonly summarized as >>>>>>>>>> "invented the Internet". I don't know of anyone else who is >>>>>>>>>> said to have "invented the World Wide Web". There were people who >>>>>>>>>> earlier suggested some kind of linked shared >>>>>>>>>> information, like Ted Nelson. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://webfoundation.org/about/vision/history-of-the-web/ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> sdw >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> sdw
