On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 06:17:38PM -0500, John Newman wrote: > On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 05:29:50PM +0000, jim bell wrote: > > On Saturday, November 16, 2019, 01:50:43 AM PST, John Newman > > <j...@synfin.org> wrote: > > > On Nov 16, 2019, at 2:51 AM, jim bell <jdb10...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > On Saturday, November 16, 2019, 12:22:31 AM PST, John Newman > > > <j...@synfin.org> wrote: > > > > On Nov 16, 2019, at 1:37 AM, jim bell <jdb10...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >> >Most people are not anarchists. > > > > > >> Mostly because they have grown up their entire lives being unaware of > > >> the possibility that a society can be run without a centralized, > > >> heirarchical government. And they were also nearly unaware that some > > >> non-governmental entity could issue "currency" that people could > > >> actually use to buy real things. Things have changed, huh? > > > > > > > >Crypto-currency is an important precursor to the technical > > >problems of AP, but AP isn't just a technical problem. The fact > > >that people are investing in bitcoin to try to make a big score > > >has fuck all to do with the ideas behind AP, which involves > > >financing murder for the greater good (oh, and to deter car > > >theft :). > > > > None of your arguments explain why you think AP won't work. Just explains > > why YOU don't want to see it work. Can't you see why that is irrelevant > > for most people? > > > I can see that you're making an irrelevant and poorly constructed > argument :) For one thing, I layed out quite clearly what I think > the weaknesses of AP are, you can re-read my previous email if you > like. It's pretty simple stuff - I lack faith in the "human spirit" > to prevail over the global orwellian nightmare into which we are > devolving, and disagree with you that the ruling class will accept > the assassinations of themselves or their henchmen without fighting > back. It has nothing to do with my own desires about AP working or > not working. Of course I agree that tyrannicide is a noble and moral > goal. Although... killing people for petty theft is not, and > positioning AP as a functional replacement for the current criminal > justice system is fucking insane. This provokes a simmering thought to the surface of a lone neurone, regarding just one of many possible escalations: The mobbish public in their hasty and unthinking zeal to "send a message" could at some point target a tyrant/ oligarch's child/ren. That might sound outlandish and "never possible" at first glance, but let's consider possible scenario: - Epstein turns out to be alive. - Pedophile hate rises and fueled with slut media advert sales. - A photo of Clinton and Epstein banging a 12 year old becomes public. - Pedophile hate reaches fever pitch. - Epstein and Clinton are bunkered down with their own private merc army - cannot be personally "AP"ed. - Devastated souls "tortured at a young age" unite to "end the Clinton" genetic line, once and for all. - All of the above happens in a very short time period, say 48 hours, with global P2P coverage and hysteria, with no relevant time for anyone to step back and slow the lynch. - And remember, it's only the 1 in a 1000 or the 1 in 10,000 humans who need to be the unbalanced, tortured, reacting unthinking ones who pitch in an average of $10 each, and we're talking $380,000 to $3.8 million, immediately slushing around the world's most efficient conceivable anonymous assassination market, to "end the Clinton line, once and for all, children, grandchildren, the lot".