On Mon, 24 Mar 2014, Richard Bejtlich wrote: > On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Moses Hernandez <[email protected]> wrote: > > Dave, > > Quick Q: You referring to this particular statement (I paused it): > > > > Highlights - Technical > > - In over 97% of the 2,672 separate APT1 intrusions Mandiant observed (into > > 141 companies), APT1 used IP addresses registered in Shanghai. > > > > So that statement tells me that those are just the APT1 intrusions not all > > of the Mandiant referenced intrusions. APT1 itself is said to use IP > > addresses registered in Shanghai. Is that by itself clever misdirection? > > Maybe. Are there other 'APT' style groups that go undetected from various > > nations? > > Moses is right. Dave misunderstood what Kevin said. Also, APT1 is only > one of two dozen or so Chinese groups Mandiant tracks. We also track > Russians, etc. >
With all due respect to your researchers, colleagues, etc, I took your APT1 data, ran it through all sorts of analysis' all sorts of recon and I could not for the life of my come to the same conclusions that you guys did. All your data run through Sentinel Analysis http://www.infiltrated.net/aptredux/ There is no voodoo, dirty tricks there, its all recorded for all to see. Here is a mind map of all of Mandiant's data: http://infiltrated.net/straggler-f211596a8ac0cac13983ad2b98a71108/straggler-mapped.html 70% plus, were mapped to one industry, not CN government. Did you guys (Mandiant) omit some secret sauce, because I still have a difficult time piecing together how - outside of an IP address, and one name (UglyGorilla) - you guys can even attribute this to CN gov. -- =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ J. Oquendo SGFA, SGFE, C|EH, CNDA, CHFI, OSCP, CPT, RWSP, GREM "Where ignorance is our master, there is no possibility of real peace" - Dalai Lama 42B0 5A53 6505 6638 44BB 3943 2BF7 D83F 210A 95AF http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x2BF7D83F210A95AF _______________________________________________ Dailydave mailing list [email protected] https://lists.immunityinc.com/mailman/listinfo/dailydave
