I'm glad you thought it worthwhile to analyze whatever you analyzed, but after our report was public, the heads of the House and Senate Intel Committees, NSA, and others I won't name, said Mandiant got the attribution correct.
Sincerely, Richard On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 11:30 AM, J. Oquendo <[email protected]> wrote: > On Mon, 24 Mar 2014, Richard Bejtlich wrote: > >> On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Moses Hernandez <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Dave, >> > Quick Q: You referring to this particular statement (I paused it): >> > >> > Highlights - Technical >> > - In over 97% of the 2,672 separate APT1 intrusions Mandiant observed >> > (into 141 companies), APT1 used IP addresses registered in Shanghai. >> > >> > So that statement tells me that those are just the APT1 intrusions not all >> > of the Mandiant referenced intrusions. APT1 itself is said to use IP >> > addresses registered in Shanghai. Is that by itself clever misdirection? >> > Maybe. Are there other 'APT' style groups that go undetected from various >> > nations? >> >> Moses is right. Dave misunderstood what Kevin said. Also, APT1 is only >> one of two dozen or so Chinese groups Mandiant tracks. We also track >> Russians, etc. >> > > With all due respect to your researchers, colleagues, etc, > I took your APT1 data, ran it through all sorts of analysis' > all sorts of recon and I could not for the life of my come > to the same conclusions that you guys did. > > All your data run through Sentinel Analysis > http://www.infiltrated.net/aptredux/ > > There is no voodoo, dirty tricks there, its all recorded > for all to see. Here is a mind map of all of Mandiant's > data: > > http://infiltrated.net/straggler-f211596a8ac0cac13983ad2b98a71108/straggler-mapped.html > > 70% plus, were mapped to one industry, not CN government. > Did you guys (Mandiant) omit some secret sauce, because I > still have a difficult time piecing together how - outside > of an IP address, and one name (UglyGorilla) - you guys > can even attribute this to CN gov. > > > > -- > =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ > J. Oquendo > SGFA, SGFE, C|EH, CNDA, CHFI, OSCP, CPT, RWSP, GREM > > "Where ignorance is our master, there is no possibility of > real peace" - Dalai Lama > > 42B0 5A53 6505 6638 44BB 3943 2BF7 D83F 210A 95AF > http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x2BF7D83F210A95AF _______________________________________________ Dailydave mailing list [email protected] https://lists.immunityinc.com/mailman/listinfo/dailydave
