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Hi Yoav,

About: DNSSEC can detect filtered out information (often not
understood as it involves that complicated denial of existance part of
DNSSEC).

On 10/12/2012 11:24 AM, Yoav Nir wrote:
> Hi Marc
> 
> I assume you're talking about TLS proxies rather than HTTP
> proxies. Those are in a position to sign certificates on behalf of
> al the https servers in the world, that would be trusted by the
> client. If they have that kind of control, I don't see how they'd
> have any problem either filtering out TLSA records from DNS queries
> and responses or getting the client to trust their own signatures.

A resolver can detect that TLSA records have been filtered out.  (but
cannot then reconstruct that data, i.e. no connection).

> A draft from a few months ago ( 
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mcgrew-tls-proxy-server-01 )
> would solve this problem, as it allows the client to see the real 
> certificate. But that TLS extension was rejected, so it's pretty
> much dead.

Well, would not see the real certificate, but know that trouble exists
(TLSA got filtered) and can stop the connection.

Technically, the resolver knows that 'it could not successfully prove
that the TLSA did not exist', and it cannot get a TLSA.  So, the
fallback to plain PKIX should not be performed.

Best regards,
   Wouter
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