On 16/04/15 20:10, Paul Wouters wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Apr 2015, Stephen Farrell wrote:
> 
>> My understanding is that some people wanted to experiment with TLSA
>> without having to have had DNSSEC deployed. But I take your answer
>> to be that no such behaviour is defined here, which is fine. So
>> consider this one answered.
> 
> I go back and forth with this one. It seems there is no good reason
> not to use an insecure trust anchor over no trust anchor, but the UI
> would have to be clearly different, which is where the real problem is
> I think. We could easilly use unsigned TLSA over completely unverified
> TLSA, but it would not be a good test because you cannot accept it as
> equal security in the UI without it becoming a downgrade attack.
> 
> Those who want to test could add their zone to the DLV, at least for
> now - or configure a local trust anchor, if they are okay with a
> signed zone without DS record.

I still think I've been answered but just to clarify. The context
here has no UI at all given it's between MTAs. And the people who
wanted to experiment I believe wanted to play about with no DNSSEC
at all, rather than with local trust anchors for DNS.

Cheers,
S.


> 
> Paul
> 

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