On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 11:06 AM, Dave Crocker <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > On 1/21/2016 11:18 AM, Shumon Huque wrote: > >> Lastly, new protocols take a long time to get deployed. Look at IPv6 >> - I'm speaking from experience, having first deployed it in >> production in 2002. And it's still largely undeployed. Shutting down >> the DANE working group while the protocol is still in its infancy, >> and while there is still potential work in the queue, sends the wrong >> message in my opinion. >> > > > If there is work to do, then where is the draft charter text describing > the problem and nature of work to be done, timeline for completion, > indication of who is asking for the work, indication of who will do the > work, and indication of who will adopt (use) the work? > I would be happy to send draft charter text for some of the work items I mentioned in my previous note. We're still in the discussion phase at the moment. I assume charter revision proposals will follow promptly if there is interest. Arguably some of the work like new uses of the existing TLSA server spec by other applications could be done in other IETF working groups. But the first item, augmenting the TLSA spec to support client authentication, feels like a core DANE working group item, so I would like that work at least to be done here. In terms of overseeing adoption of an IETF specification, that's not the > job of the IETF. That's the job of whatever Internet constituency(ies) > want to see the adoption. The IETF work is a segment of an industry > process. Simplistically, it divides into : 1) formulate the needs, 2) > design a solution, 3) deploy the solution. The IETF is (only) step #2. Sure - I wasn't suggesting IETF was the venue for deployment issues and advocacy. We should have a non IETF dane-ops list for that sort of thing. I was merely talking about the impression being sent by the shutdown. And there is a queue of plausible protocol development work. -- Shumon Huque
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