"I personally think darktable should default to a neutral look (dark and
ugly), but not all the dev team agrees."
It all depends what target you have for Darktable. There are probably and
surely not only pro photographers using it, and I'm not sure if all the
passionate amateurs are doing enough homework to know all the theory and
understand enough about the pixelpipe. I do not, apparently. I tried to
document myself a bit over the years, but apparently, I still have a lot to
learn :) I still don't think that an "expert" app like Darktable should be
too oriented to real experts in the field, but i'm not the devs, it's your
baby and you decide. I'm one of the target for the app, there must be
others like me. I'm using tutorials to improve, reading also, but having an
app that is both able to go deep in the editing, but without being too
complicated to use at first seems like a good a balance. As you said
Aurélien, if you show first a very dark flat and ugly image to users, most
of the newcomers may just leave. If the default modules are, by design, a
poor choice or broken (like the infamous base curve), that's also a
problem. I'm not saying that all users must be assisted and pampered like
babies, but a good compromise can be found. Again, it's all in the hands of
the devs, and the kind of users you want for Darktable. I'm just giving my
point of view as the "passionate photographer who doesn't know enough yet".
François
On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 7:49 AM Florian W <flo.wern...@gmail.com> wrote:
> @Paul
>
> Appart from the manual, there's several people on youtube either
> presenting what you can do module per module and what effect on an image
> can be expected for each slider (technical approach), or doing screen
> recording of photographs edit (retouch/artistic approach) for a full
> processing or targeted to a specific issue (a common one : noise
> reduction). Some do both. It is advised to watch these in 1080p quality.
>
> Sometimes seeing the effect in live on several photographs of different
> type (portrait, street, architectural...) is really a good complement of
> the textual + photo description of the manual.
>
> Checkout (if not already done) Robert Hutton (english), Rawfiner ,
> carafife and Aurélien Pierre (french if you speak it). Aurélien has a some
> video on filmic that are really helpful to understand the technical aspect
> of the module, which can be a good help for getting the result you want
> with it. I would be surprised that none of these resource have no
> equivalent in other languages too.
>
> For the retouch process, more based on what you want to improve rather
> than the tool to perform it, there's also a lot of information targeted to
> Lightroom users in textual and videos on the internet.
>
> Florian Wernert
> Software engineer INSA
> In-training Neuroscience researcher
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/wernertflorian
>
>
>
> Le mer. 29 mai 2019 à 07:00, Andreas Schneider <a...@cryptomilk.org> a
> écrit :
>
>> On Wednesday, May 29, 2019 5:48:30 AM CEST paul sorenson wrote:
>> > This thread is fascinating to me. Are there resources out there for
>> > those who want to learn a more technical approach to editing with
>> > Darktable. As has been mentioned elsewhere, the manual kind of presents
>> > modules in isolation eg the base curve docs don't come with a warning -
>> > well maybe a hint in the tip at the end.
>> >
>> > I am using 2.7 built from source with base curve turned off but still
>> > tend to use filmic a bit by the seat of the pants.
>>
>> As always there are several ways to contribute to a Free and Open Source
>> project. If you're not writing code, writing documentation is a very good
>> way
>> to contribute!
>>
>> --
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