hi

On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 10:21 PM, Michael Below <be...@judiz.de> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm just a simple user, but I feel it would be a wrong direction for 
> darktable to focus on widget-writing. IMHO this is an issue of proper 
> packaging: If darktable right now depends on GTK <= 3.18, a distribution 
> shouldn't do the upgrade to GTK 3.20 without warnings that something might 
> break.
>
> I think the widget design got a lot better in the transition to GTK 3. Making 
> good widgets takes a lot of effort, and that doesn't pay off in a single 
> program. Instead of specific widgets I'd like to see more development in 
> stuff that is photography-specific, be it dual monitor setups (maybe have all 
> the darkroom tabs show on the small monitor side by side and the image on the 
> big one?), 30bit color,

funny you should mention 30 bit in this context. using opengl + glfw +
https://github.com/memononen/nanovg should have 30-bit out of the box
and gpu accelerated drawing. we're only using a tiny subset of
widgets, and the ones we really need we draw ourselves already
(tonecurve, equalizer, etc). at some point it just becomes a question
of what is less work for us in the long run.

-jo

> or cool image processing algorithms like the perspective correction.
>
> Cheers
> Michael
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: johannes hanika [mailto:hana...@gmail.com]
> Gesendet: Freitag, 15. April 2016 11:31
> An: praerieh...@kako-media.de
> Cc: darktable-user@lists.darktable.org
> Betreff: Re: [darktable-user] Upgrading to GTK 3.20 ruins all menus (at least 
> in darkroom)
>
> hi,
>
> i guess you could bother the gtk guys about that, but i doubt it would do 
> anything. i'm tempted to say that doing it the blender way and just writing 
> our own widgets may be a good idea and less work in the long run.
>
> -jo
>
> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 9:27 PM,  <praerieh...@kako-media.de> wrote:
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> any updates on this topic. Working on ArchLinux with latest Gtk and
>> darktable is more or less unusable with the broken appearance.
>>
>> Regards
>> Karsten
>>
>> On Monday, April 11, 2016 9:01:25 PM CEST Normand Fortier wrote:
>>> Of course, silly me, I do not get the warnings after correcting the
>>> css file... So no more warnings but appearance does not change.
>>>
>>> Le 2016-04-11 20:47, Owen Mays a écrit :
>>> > I get the warnings when I launch darktable (no options) from the
>>> > command line. The warnings show up in the terminal window.
>>> >
>>> > -Owen
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 7:41 PM, Normand Fortier
>>> >
>>> > <normand.fort...@cgocable.ca <mailto:normand.fort...@cgocable.ca>> wrote:
>>> >     A silly question, but how did you get the warnings? I just
>>> >     upgraded to gtk 3.20 (archlinux), if I start darktable with -d all
>>> >     I do not get the warnings as part of the output. Anyway I tried
>>> >     modifying /usr/share/darktable/darktable.css to correct the
>>> >     warnings, but the appearance of darktable does not change (still
>>> >     has the large buttons on top).
>>> >
>>> >     Normand
>>> >
>>> >     Le 2016-04-10 14:23, Owen Mays a écrit :
>>> >         I would be happy to work on a solution if someone could point
>>> >         me to a gtk/css reference or guide. I found this:
>>> >         
>>> > https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/GtkWidget.html#GtkWidget--> >     
>>> >     s-wide-separators but all it says is
>>> >
>>> >         "|GtkWidget:wide-separators| has been deprecated since version
>>> >         3.20 and should not be used in newly-written code. Use CSS
>>> >         properties on the separator elements to style separators; the
>>> >         value of this style property is ignored."
>>> >
>>> >         Can anyone tell me what the buttons on the top of each module
>>> >         are called? (the on/off, presets menu, and reset buttons). It
>>> >         looks like their size has been expanded and is pushing
>>> >         everything else too large.
>>> >
>>> >         Thanks,
>>> >
>>> >         Owen
>>> >
>>> >         On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Pascal Obry <pas...@obry.net
>>> >         <mailto:pas...@obry.net> <mailto:pas...@obry.net
>>> >
>>> >         <mailto:pas...@obry.net>>> wrote:
>>> >             Le dimanche 10 avril 2016 à 12:40 -0500, Owen Mays a écrit :
>>> >             > I have created an issue in redmine:
>>> >         http://redmine.darktable.org/issu
>>> >
>>> >             > es/10990
>>> >             > Let me know if there is more information that would
>>> > be
>>> >
>>> >         helpful,
>>> >
>>> >             or if
>>> >
>>> >             > there is anything else I can test.
>>> >
>>> >             Nothing more until either someone with Gtk 3.20 step in or my
>>> >             GNU/Debian sid move to 3.20 :)
>>> >
>>> >             --
>>> >
>>> >               Pascal Obry /  Magny Les Hameaux (78)
>>> >
>>> >               The best way to travel is by means of imagination
>>> >
>>> >         http://v2p.fr.eu.org
>>> >         http://www.obry.net
>>> >
>>> >               gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net
>>> > <http://keys.gnupg.net>
>>> >
>>> >         <http://keys.gnupg.net>
>>> >
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