You are right Anton, the embeded image "inside" a RAW is generated by
camera's internal JPEG(?) engine. Thus any closed-source magic affects
the embeded image looks. That is OK, since it is generated there just
to have some kind of a fast thumbnail/preview.

However, my problem is related to the difference between DT's
'darkroom' rendering (repsesented decoded RAW data) and somehow weird
color profile in *exported* JPEGs.

So far it seems there are only KDE/Plasma users. I use GNOME env, so
this might be relevant to the way the ICC/profiles are handled. I've
found an old thread with the same issue as I have. It seems the guy
also used GNOME:
http://darktable-users.narkive.com/bcTCeaYG/exported-jpegs-always-darker-and-more-satuated.

2018-05-15 21:15 GMT+02:00 Anton Aylward <[email protected]>:
> On 15/05/18 01:57 AM, Yuri wrote:
>> Hello,
>> it's really frustrating but I can't get any usable export to JPEG.
>>
>> I got Sony RAWs shot in sRGB, I wanna simply convert them straight to JPEG. 
>> No
>> module tweaking, etc. So I check the image in the 'darkroom' mode - colors 
>> and
>> saturation are perfect there.
>
> I don't know if it's relevant but ...
>
> When I view an unprocessed RAW film roll in my file browser it is different 
> from
> the colours/saturation etc I see when I open with DT.  If I simply export to 
> JPG
> and again view, side by side, in my file browser or Firefox doing a file 
> viewer
> even Gwenview, then what I see is, again different.
>
> Upon investigation I found that what was actually being displayed for the RAW
> was embedded JPG.  I gather that this is the screen image I saw on the 3"
> display on the back of my DSLR.
>
> If I use one of the exif tools to remove the embedded image and thumbnail from
> the RAW not only is the RAW file a lot smaller but my file mode browser can no
> longer display an image for the RAW.
>
> Other tools that CAN import the RAW can render it.
>
> Do remember, however, that the RAW captures what the lens projects onto the
> pixels and is unprocessed; no adjustments of any kind.  What you see in the
> viewfinder and what that embedded JPG shows is what your camera settings are 
> set
> up for.
>
> That a un-adjusted DT export to JPG of the RAW is different from the embedded
> JPG does not surprise me at all.
>
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