In my personal opinion, the "in" temperature should be set to whatever
the camera detected (usually available through the EXIF data), or
something calculated internally (some tell me this is what dcraw and
ufraw do).  Initially, the "out" temperature should be the same, and
can then be adjusted to make an image warmer or cooler.

As far as I understand, programs like ufraw only have a slider for the
"out" temperature, and only hold the "in" temperature internally as a
reference point for adjustments.  This is what I expect the one-slider
approach the Pascal mentioned would do.

As for the presets, I can see why they currently affect the "in"
temperature.  It's simply a way of saying "no, 5000K is wrong, this is
what the camera was set to".  Makes absolute sense.  In a one-slider
approach where the one slider represents the "out" temperature, this
doesn't make sense any more, and probably should be rethought as "I'd
like to adjust the temperature to this".

Cheers,
Richard

In message <[email protected]> on Tue, 02 Apr 2013 14:06:02 -0700, Mark 
Heieis <[email protected]> said:

mheieis> That's the assumption I made as well but that doesn't make sense to 
me. 
mheieis> To me they should be the same. That is, why would I bother adjusting 
the 
mheieis> "in" if it is not the same as "out". I understand where this is 
mheieis> important for input display versus output profiles. Is this the case 
mheieis> then that "in" only impacts the display and "out" affects the output? 
mheieis> But for temperature, how would I "know" what the "out" should be set 
to?
mheieis> 
mheieis> For instance, adjusting the temperature using the one of the presets 
(eg 
mheieis> Daylight) which only affects "in". So is the implication then one 
would 
mheieis> not see any affect of using this preset on any output (eg jpg for 
printing)?
mheieis> 
mheieis> Is the implication then is that I have to manually adjust the 
mheieis> termperature "out" to whatever was set for the temperature "in"?
mheieis> 
mheieis> 
mheieis> On 2013-04-02 13:53, Richard Levitte wrote:
mheieis> > In message <[email protected]> on Tue, 02 Apr 2013 12:37:53 
-0700, Mark Heieis <[email protected]> said:
mheieis> >
mheieis> > mheieis> Hi There,
mheieis> > mheieis>
mheieis> > mheieis> Could someone point me to an explanation of white balance 
temperature
mheieis> > mheieis> "in" vs "out"? I've been looking but haven't been able to 
find any usage
mheieis> > mheieis> examples or explanations. (Using DT 1.1.3)
mheieis> > mheieis>
mheieis> > mheieis> Much appreciated.
mheieis> >
mheieis> > My perception is that the "in" temperature can be used to indicate
mheieis> > what temperature the camera or you perceived at the time the picture
mheieis> > was shot, while the "out" temperature is what you desire for the 
final
mheieis> > picture.
mheieis> >
mheieis> > If you don't want to change the color temperature that you see, just
mheieis> > leave them both at the same value.  Any color temperature change is
mheieis> > really the difference between the "in" and "out" values.  No
mheieis> > difference => no change.
mheieis> >
mheieis> > Cheers,
mheieis> > Richard
mheieis> >
mheieis> 
mheieis> 
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