On 06/05/2013 03:58 PM, jeremy rosen wrote:

Hi!

>     I know. Therefore, an easy(?) way out in the dt-context would be to
>     allow /exporting DNG/, which is what I suggested. To add the existing
>     xmp to an existing DNG is no problem indeed, perfectly agree. (Could be
>     done in the export as well, I think. Would be easier for the
>     non-commandliners.)
>
> lucky you....
>
> lua is now able to implement new exporters and it is actually a feature
> that is in need of more testing...
>
> please look into the wiki (and my previous mail about lua) on how to do
> it.... you can also ask me any questions on lua, either here or on IRC

I think the first step for me would be to learn yet another language. ;) 
Anyway, I think it's an interesting option. I've some ideas here, but it 
has a learning curve as I don't yet speak lua.

Probably you have some more and documented samples somewhere? Some sort 
of tutorial on how to accomplish easy things? E.g. apply a block of tags 
in one go or the like?

>     Anyway, for most RAWs you start out you need a way to go to DNG first.
>     For this I see no easy option, yet. (Well, the main option at the moment
>     requires quite a large runtime and a virtual box with file sharing...)
>
> again, you could "cheat with lua" by intercepting the "new image
> imported" event, do whatever you want in there, then import the DNG in.

In this whole thread I have the feeling that people think to complicated 
and completely missunderstood my suggestion.

My suggestion was only to allow the export of a finalized, archivable 
format that contains metadata along with the RAW, thus comprising a self 
contained file that does not depend on the environment and thus is just 
more stable. It would just avoide the (obviously) fragile linkage by 
file names between the xmp and raw or a complex database backend like 
dt. AFAIK DNG is currently the only (more or less well known) format 
that accomplishes this and is pending at ISO.

> this is a bit clunky but should work. a better alternative (to avoid
> importing the raw => dropping the raw => importing the dng) would need a
> pre-import event which we don't have. I'll add it to my todo list

Not my intention at all. But it would work for a desaster recovery 
without any events by just ingesting the final DNGs. It's a bit like 
ingesting final JPGs to recover the dt processing from their xmp block.

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