Gerard - thank you for posting your files, it's really helped me configure VDos.
Don *Don FriedmanProfessionalRecords.Com LLCPRS Data Systems* *205 S Main StreetPittsburgh, PA 15215412-784-1600 - 1-800-PRS-FILE 412-784-1615 Fax* On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 7:06 AM, Gerard van Loenhout <[email protected] > wrote: > Klaus, Jens, and of course all others, > > I think there is a general misunderstanding of the use of vDos. vDos makes > it possible to run DP under 64b. > So why discuss this rebuilding your DP databases if DP still runs perfect? > > Running DP under vDos is very simple. Install setup.exe from > https://sourceforge.net/projects/vdos/ > > My autoexec*.txt* ( in c:\vDos ) looks like: > > *use v: v:\db *(My database is on a network: v:\ ) > *use c: c:* > *c:* > *cd \vdos* > *dp v:\invision* > *exit* > > My config.txt: > > *window = 30* > *color = false* > *frame = on* > > Execute vDos to start DP. > > Gerard > > > > 2014-03-18 11:44 GMT+01:00 khfpl <[email protected]>: > >> Hi Jens, >> >> >> >> this is Klaus, writing from Germany and I totally underline your posting. >> I also got addicted to DP and the whole WP Office suite around 1988 and I >> also haven't seen anything nearly close to this powerful software. Today I >> am using Macs and Windows based systems, but every once in a while when I >> go back to DP (especially) I am still in awe about it. The current vDos >> discussion has indeed sparked my interest again, and I was planning >> (totally for private usage) to create something around ... well.. a >> bibliographic database (to give you an idea: I am owning around 700 >> music-related books and have totally lost track on these), and a CD and LP >> database (or even a combination btw). >> >> >> >> As you have this in place (and assuming that at least the CD/LP database >> is for private purposes), would you mind or would it be possible to share >> this work? >> >> >> >> Warm regards >> >> Klaus Löper >> >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> >> >> *Von:* [email protected] [mailto: >> [email protected]] *Im Auftrag von *Jens Høeg >> *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 18. März 2014 11:09 >> *An:* Dataperfect Users Discussion Group >> *Betreff:* Re: [Dataperf] Is it time to abandon DP after 24 years? >> >> >> >> Dear All >> >> >> >> I am NOT normally active contributor on the list, but listen in to the >> more urgent items that are discussed. I started using DP in 1988 when it >> first came out and became an addict because of its intimate relation to WP >> under the Office package (the Shell macros were what really sent this >> combination flying and I have never seen anything like that under Windows. >> Once you learned to use the Macro editor and the power of the Office >> Clipboard you were really at a vantage point). >> >> >> >> I use DP for my Bibliographic database which it quite complex with >> formulas for many fields that automatically updates or suggest entries at >> record creation. I also use it to organize my collection of CD's and LP's >> in a similarly rather intricate relational database. >> >> >> >> So why not shift to e.g. ENDNOTE for the bibliographical and FILEMAKER >> PRO for other more user defined purposes or something like that? Well, >> firstly the harassment of reprogramming and exporting and importuning. But >> that could be done of course. What keeps me stuck is the unbeatable user >> interface in DP. Firstly, you can do everything by the keyboard! That is a >> boon on a laptop. Secondly, the division of the screen into the record and >> the look up panel is again unbeatable. Finally, and I guess really most >> important: That each field can be used as a look up field and with its own >> field list and index associated with it and these things can (if you wish) >> be changed easily while the database is still filled with data. Add to that >> that the filesizes are very small, and that Dataperfect run real fast, the >> only thing I miss is real mouse interface to get rapidly to fields (I never >> bothered with the DP mouse, but maybe I should) and that files are xported >> in WP 4.x format rather than WP 5.X so you often need to import exported >> filed to WP first, then save before importing to WORD. If not, you loose >> diacritical characters, underlining and such like. >> >> >> >> There is another hassle: For us that use non US keyboards it is a bother >> to set up Office/WP/DP to make the keyboard work. If you do not do it right >> both keys (often all shifted keys) and Function (F) keys do not work. I do >> nthat now by starting Office form a bat file that first invokes the Danish >> keyboard setup as under old MS dos Config.sys and autoexec. I got help for >> that here form the list. But this batch file has to tuned to each and every >> PC because WIN (I still use XP) is not really the same on all PC systems. >> So sometimes I need a long detailed command in the batch file invoking the >> codepage 865 and other times I just call "kb16 dk" and there you are. >> >> >> >> I have not tried other command prompt systems than the integrated Command >> Prompt in Win XP. May be I should, especially, and I fear the day, when I >> have to move from outdated XP to a newer WIN platform. >> >> >> >> But on XP I enjoy that you can grab things from the Dos window and thus >> from DP and insert it into the Win clipboard. You jst have to invoke that >> option in your doswindow (batchfile) shortcut. It even works with the WIN >> OFFICE clipboard so you can do multiple "puts" from the DP windows and thus >> for a single record incrementally put fiels to the WIN system. A little >> slow but it works when you need it. >> >> >> >> One final note: I venture WP (5.1) DP and WP-OFFICE as among the top >> programs that were ever made. Nothing, but nothing beats WP and its "style" >> and "macro" system. I am missing that every day under WORD. Sure you can >> program macros, sure they can be allocated to keyboard strokes but making >> an on the fly macro that makes a complicated search and replace function >> and then repeating that macro to run multiple times? Forget it under WIN >> unless you want to creep deep into programming. >> >> >> >> Not everything on computers is an advance. Windows won out mostly because >> it offered a system for those that did not want to "know anything" and not >> wanted to "climb any learning curve" such as learning by heart the F-key >> combinations in WP and DP. WIN and OFFICE remains systems that are slow to >> use and difficult to shape to user needs and difficult to migrate to a new >> pC with your own preferences. Not like WP where you just needed to copy >> your the WP system files and your macros. In WORD you cannot even copy a >> macrto apparently unless you copy the whole "normal.dot" What a bother! >> >> >> >> Hail WP/DP/Office and thanks to Lev Bastian wherever he is. His legacy >> lives on >> >> >> >> Jens >> >> >> >> Jens T. Hoeg, PhD, DSc >> >> Marine Biology Section >> >> Room 20-1-118 >> >> Department of Biology, University of Copenhagen >> >> Universitetsparken 4, 2100 Copenhagen >> >> DENMARK >> >> Pho 28 75 12 47 >> >> Priv 44 84 11 60 >> >> Mail to: [email protected] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Dataperf mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.dataperfect.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dataperf >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Dataperf mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.dataperfect.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dataperf > >
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