Well said Dave ! But OMG : fuzzy,pivots and joins are something very exotic indeed. Maybe we found out how to make it some day in DP :)-- . Anyway it's very good to have a DBA on board. Pls do your considerations from time to time when you get more expertise with DP. I had some MS SQL servers in the city hall and they are pretty inefficient by the way, don't knwo how people still buy them. Regarding the converter, I think brand new ones are quite expensive nowadays (130 USD !!) , so probably you'll have to build yours. I saw some converters with PICs, 8051 but none with Arduino , they should not be too difficult to program, There is some centronics Arduino code but without the serial interface the tip here would be use a MAX232 for serial convert , they are very flexible and work quite nice when deal with serial interface.

rgds..


On 12/18/2016 10:29 AM, Dave Britten wrote:
Hi Fabio,

It's funny, as a DBA/programmer, I have no interest in modern "mobile" development for my own needs. I don't want to spend dozens/hundreds of hours agonizing over UI and data binding code, I just want to speak in the language of data modeling, with a rapid UI builder that will get me to the 80-90% mark. For my own personal use, I don't need the flash and fluff, just an application that's quick and efficient to use. (I don't think that mentality is exclusive to the IT profession; our house was previously owned by the builder, and I've uncovered some... interesting shortcuts and conveniences throughout over the years.)

The report writer is definitely quite impressive, and refreshingly easy to use. I haven't delved too deeply yet, but for a "nonprogrammable" database, it sure is awfully programmable! And it's all based on the same banded report paradigms I'm used to from SQL Server Reporting Services or Access. I still think I'll be better off using SQL Server for more exotic querying purposes - outer/anti-joins, non-equijoins, pivots, other "fuzzy" correlations and data mining - but DP's report writer seems like it will be plenty for any use cases that I would actually want to tackle on a handheld 80186. I'm hoping I can find a nice pocket-sized serial-to-parallel adapter to print straight from my HP palmtop, without having to strap some shift registers to an Arduino Pro Mini and do it myself.

-Dave Britten

On Dec 18, 2016, at 8:41 AM, Fabio Muller <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Hello Guys, got a busy year this year due to our local city election ( Don knows what it looks like !) But I'm always reading everything posted here. Dave I'm very glad that you find DP and I'm sure you'll be in loving with it very soon. I'm not a DBA but have some programming background, and I never found something so fast, quick and dirty like DP. Today people spent tons of hours with windows make-up ( buttons,colours,flowers, fluff's and etc..) and data which is the goal, nothing. I read you post and congratulations you already get the spirit, or better, you already know how to do it. There is just one thing that I suspect you would have to adjust in a near future : "(..) its report writer isn't nearly as powerful as writing an SQL query in a modern database.." After you go deeper and master formulas you probably will have to add a p.s. to your post! .

Talking about DP guys , I remember and found on dateperfect.nl <http://dateperfect.nl> (in wayback machine) an advise about "the Huntington Beach DP Conference Video's" and that Colin Roberts had the full 8 dvd's set. Colin, do you still have this set somewhere ? I'm interested in put this online if everybody is d'accord.

Merry Christmas to you all guys and a happy new year in 2017 ( as John Olivier says "Fu..you 2016!" )



On 12/15/2016 10:12 AM, Dave Britten wrote:
Howdy all,

I just recently started using DataPerfect for some assorted personal information management (chiefly medical history), and thought that a write-up of why a 34-year-old DBA/programmer would opt for a database development platform that's nearly as old as he is might make for some interesting light reading.

http://dave.brittens.org/blog/new-nail-30-year-old-hammer.html

Note that my site is 100% non-commercial in nature. It's just a little hobby blog running on my Raspberry Pi (Pelican works great for that purpose).

I'll try not to annoy everybody with too many beginner questions on account of being a couple decades behind the curve here. :)

-Dave Britten


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