Any DD who lives in Israel is a direct contributor financially and morally to 
apartheid and genocide against the Palestinian people.

https://www.hrw.org/news/2018/06/13/israel-apparent-war-crimes-gaza

There is no sugar coating the oppression that is the people of Israel and the 
impact their presence and their support of their apartheid state has on 
millions of Palestinians and Arabs.

There is no such thing as an innocent Israeli just like there is no such thing 
as a innocent Nazi. Silence is complicity and Israelis aren’t just silent in 
these issues they are supportive of them because they support the existence of 
their apartheid state.

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 9:44 AM, Andrej Shadura <[email protected]> wrote:

> Nasir,
>
> On Thu, 21 Mar 2019 at 17:10, Nasir El-Amin <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>> Either way this ignores the fact that Israel has been murdering Muslims for 
>> countless years and the state of Israel sits on occupied Palestinian land. 
>> Debian having a conference in contested land where military conflict and 
>> oppressive acts are occurring is unacceptable.
>>
>> We (the Muslim Community of Linux Users) are working on a larger response to 
>> Debconf in Israel.
>>
>> If you at all believe in social justice and oppose human rights violations 
>> then you will not attend a Debconf in Israel.
>
> While I understand your concerns, please don’t make a mistake and
> equate the government of Israel and our Israeli developers. Tzafrir
> and other DDs in Israel are not responsible for any actions of Israel
> as a state, and you should not treat them as if they were in any way
> related to the things happening there.
>
> We are all friends here. We don’t need more conflicts and arguments
> than we already have. If we’re going to have political arguments, let
> them rather be about software freedom.
>
> Also please note that Tzafrir said:
>
>>> We're certainly looking forward for Palestinian and Muslim contributors to 
>>> attend just as any others.
>
> While I have not made up my mind — I’m not comfortable visiting any
> place with territorial conflicts (including Crimea and Kashmir, for
> example), I refuse to see bigger politics in this, and I suggest you
> do the same. Our Israeli DDs want to have Debian conference where they
> live, so that they just have us around, same as I wanted to have a
> Debian conference in my place (but have not succeeded). It is just a
> lot of fun to have friends come over to you, wherever you are. Even if
> you happen to live in a place people are having arguments about.
>
> Please don’t try to attribute malice to the decision to have DebConf
> in Haifa. Our community will be stronger if we don’t do that.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Andrej

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