Here one Palestinian user of Debian points out he would be excluded: [https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/b3cen2/debconf20_to_be_hosted_in_haifa_israel/eiyxby6/](https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/b3cen2/debconf20_to_be_hosted_in_haifa_israel/eiyxby6/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app) https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/b3cen2/debconf20_to_be_hosted_in_haifa_israel/eiyxby6/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app How about we agree that Debconf never take place in a country that would exclude someone based on their religion or national origin as a firm policy? I’d also be advocating against a Debconf in Saudi Arabia because they exclude Israelis.
On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 9:44 AM, Andrej Shadura <and...@shadura.me> wrote: > Nasir, > > On Thu, 21 Mar 2019 at 17:10, Nasir El-Amin <nasir_ela...@protonmail.com> > wrote: >> Either way this ignores the fact that Israel has been murdering Muslims for >> countless years and the state of Israel sits on occupied Palestinian land. >> Debian having a conference in contested land where military conflict and >> oppressive acts are occurring is unacceptable. >> >> We (the Muslim Community of Linux Users) are working on a larger response to >> Debconf in Israel. >> >> If you at all believe in social justice and oppose human rights violations >> then you will not attend a Debconf in Israel. > > While I understand your concerns, please don’t make a mistake and > equate the government of Israel and our Israeli developers. Tzafrir > and other DDs in Israel are not responsible for any actions of Israel > as a state, and you should not treat them as if they were in any way > related to the things happening there. > > We are all friends here. We don’t need more conflicts and arguments > than we already have. If we’re going to have political arguments, let > them rather be about software freedom. > > Also please note that Tzafrir said: > >>> We're certainly looking forward for Palestinian and Muslim contributors to >>> attend just as any others. > > While I have not made up my mind — I’m not comfortable visiting any > place with territorial conflicts (including Crimea and Kashmir, for > example), I refuse to see bigger politics in this, and I suggest you > do the same. Our Israeli DDs want to have Debian conference where they > live, so that they just have us around, same as I wanted to have a > Debian conference in my place (but have not succeeded). It is just a > lot of fun to have friends come over to you, wherever you are. Even if > you happen to live in a place people are having arguments about. > > Please don’t try to attribute malice to the decision to have DebConf > in Haifa. Our community will be stronger if we don’t do that. > > -- > Cheers, > Andrej
