On Sat, 1 Nov 2014 22:59:09 -0700 Josh Triplett <j...@joshtriplett.org> wrote: > On Sat, 01 Nov 2014 12:26:14 -0700 Russ Allbery <r...@debian.org> wrote: > > So, this is also the last call for anyone to explain what harmful effect > > this could have if they think it would have a harmful effect. My > > understanding is that all of the possible harmful effects have been fixed > > by various other changes. > > systemd-shim 8-4 and newer no longer seem likely to produce harmful > effects, given that systemd-shim now depends on systemd rather than > shipping its own D-Bus policy, and that systemd-shim itself pointedly > does not launch on systemd systems. Neither of those two properties > seems likely to change or break. > > systemd-shim does depend on cgmanager, which seems more prone to > breakage, and in fact has a handful of open bugs on it. cgmanager has > in the past broken on non-systemd systems. I personally would like to > see a resolution of 755977 to deal with that.
Important typo here: I meant "cgmanager has in the past broken systemd systems". I had bugs like 761389 in mind there. Hence 755977. > Apart from that, I would still request that someone with the ability to > produce a modified local mirror test the two critical cases mentioned in > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=746578#129 . If those > two cases work, then systemd systems should not end up with systemd-shim > installed under normal circumstances, making breakage far less likely. > > - Josh Triplett > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-ctte-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141102135634.GA1220@thin