On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 05:56:00PM +0100, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: > >> In practice one doesn't actually care how far back the history goes, > >> as the history that is interesting is where developers get to do > >> intermediate commits between the two uploads to granulise the > >> changes....
> > I don't agree with this at all. I have regularly made use of the UDD > > branches to examine the history of packages (and not just the Ubuntu > > history, but also the Debian history). Being upload-level granularity > > makes it less useful than if it were at the granularity of a VCS branch > > being committed to natively by the developer, but it's still *very* > > useful for understanding the uploader's thought process at the time a > > change was made. > > The fact that git will allow us to graft the developer's own VCS on to > > these dgit repositories in a way that UDD never did is an important > > improvement, but as this is *optional*, not importing the package > > history from the archive would make dgit much less useful for the common > > case than UDD is today. > Ok. Given that we have snapshots.debian.org & graft points we can > create "import level" history in retrospect. Or perhaps it would be better to actually import into dgit directly from UDD? Since UDD has a more or less complete history of all packages in Debian, probably more extensive than even what we can assemble from snapshots.debian.org (thinking back to a snapshots hardware failure a few years ago). This won't get all the newer package history due to UDD importer failures, but it might be a good starting point. > But I find merging existing history more interesting: either upstream, > or existing git/svn packaging repositories. Absolutely; but that can only be done on a per-package basis, and will only happen for those packages where the maintainers are already bought into the model and are willing to do the work themselves. > Imho shared history with upstream projects is more interesting than > debian packaging upload history. Ideally one would have both =) Yes. This was always the ultimate target for UDD, the implementation just fell short of the ideal. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developer http://www.debian.org/ slanga...@ubuntu.com vor...@debian.org
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