please forgive me for replying to this old thread. finishing todo entries here.
On Wed, Nov 26, 2025 at 12:52:06PM +0100, Simon Josefsson wrote:
> I have some relatively modern machines that I can make use of without
> having to handle non-free software when I install the OS. Including
> Framework Laptop 13 (AMD HX 370), NovaCustom NV56 (I155H), NovaCustom
> NV41 (i7-1260P), MSI Z790-P (i9-14900K), ADLINK Ampere Altra arm64, Dell
> R630 2xE2680v4, and Raptor Talos II ppc64el. I suspect the P550 riscv64
> is another example, but haven't confirmed it.
I own a framework 13 myself and this has a non-free firmware ("bios"), so no,
you cannot install a libre system on it without lieing to yourself. And then,
most usbc powersupplies have a non-free firmwares too, and most keyboards,
mice, external displays as well. oh, and all the SSDs run nonfree firmwares as
well, harddrives too. (and yes, some wlan adapters too!)
but sure, Debian is bad for giving the user the freedom to update some
of this crap with newer crap.
I rest my case.
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