On Fri, Feb 13, 2026 at 10:12:57AM +0000, Holger Levsen wrote:
> I own a framework 13 myself and this has a non-free firmware ("bios"), so no,
> you cannot install a libre system on it without lieing to yourself. And then,
> most usbc powersupplies have a non-free firmwares too, and most keyboards,
> mice, external displays as well. oh, and all the SSDs run nonfree firmwares as
> well, harddrives too. (and yes, some wlan adapters too!)
this is complicated stuff, so I forgot one important detail:
the AMD Ryzen CPU in our libre laptop is booted by a small ARM CPU, which then
provides the non-free firmware to the AMD CPU, which noone except AMD can
legally
and practically change. And of course the ARM CPU also has nonfree firmware
itself.
> but sure, Debian is bad for giving the user the freedom to update some
> of this crap with newer crap.
>
> I rest my case.
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cheers,
Holger
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