Greetings Andreas, greetings Ştefan, greetings Ted, greetings.

Andreas Røsdal - 23.10.26, 09:36:47 CEST:
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2026 at 8:54 AM Andrei Ionuţ Ştefan <
> 
> [email protected]> wrote:
> > This is the end of the thread, Quite a legendary end to discover a
> > security vulnerability
> > in Nordstjernen. The thread was cool for 5-6 days, now its better off
> > if we end the thread now with the verdict:
> > Nordstjernen is NOT READY to ship into Debian. The security
> > vulnerabilities and policy application need
> > to be resolved first and foremost before this gets shipped out to
> > Debian.
[…]
> Ok, I appreciate all the feedback and reviews from this community. Still
> I feel that the review from Theodore Tso is highly biased, and I think
> this is because Theodore Tso is employed by Google, which makes a
> competing web browser, Google Chrome. Therefore in my opinion the
> Nordstjernen web browser was not given a fair chance by the Debian
> community, and I will focus on other Linux distributions which does not
> have Google-/corporate-biases like Debian does in this instance.

Andreas, from reviewing all of the communication regarding your request 
for inclusion of the Northstar web browser I have one feedback to you:

Take a breath! And exercise some humility.

I applaud your cause of trying to create an independent browser with small 
code base. I think of KHTML times and how many modern browsers are 
somewhat based on that. Or even independently developed Amiga browsers 
which can only display a selected range of web pages. The current 
situation with browsers is not good and kind of a duopoly regarding core 
technology. So I appreciate some fresh wind there.

I even get – with the huge mess the modern web has become – that AI models 
may help greatly with that and may even be needed, unless you can pay 
dozens of developers full time for an extended period of time. Also I got 
that you got impressive results like Youtube and Windy working according 
to one feedback to the ITP report. For four months of development time the 
results are impressive.

However I also observed a kind of notion of you knowing it better than 
everyone else. I may be reading something in your communication that is 
not there, but I got this impression from reading all your replies so far.

You don't know it better than everyone else. Simple as that.

So please take a step back and let the feedback you got *sink in*. Really 
consider it. And then come back *after* you truly addressed it.


In addition I was astonished how you kind of attacked feedback by 
diverting to either claiming the one giving feedback might not be 
competent or by suggesting a bias. I would rather prefer you addressing 
feedback based on its actual contents and not the one writing it.


A little note to Ştefan: Not every mail needs a reply to a public mailing 
list. Not even every mail addressed to you needs that. Maybe try with this 
one not to reply to list or even not to reply at all, not even with a 
justification.

Best,
-- 
Martin


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