Hello,

Am 10.06.26 um 05:12 schrieb Soren Stoutner:

The next part of the text just restates in other words what it means that
there is not warranty of any kind.  Specifically:

LICENSEE AND/OR USER AGREES TO INDEMNIFY AND HOLD
TAES AND TAMUS HARMLESS FROM ANY CLAIMS ARISING OUT OF THE USE OR
POSSESSION OF SUCH ITEMS.

Because these are the same ideas, it doesn’t really matter how many different
ways they say it.

This seems to me like a typical clause designed by lawyers. It sounds harmless, but it is typical unspecified in favour of the user of the clause.

So the implications are not clear.

Does a distributor (like Debian) "OF SUCH ITEMS" has to "INDEMNIFY AND HOLD TAES AND TAMUS HARMLESS", if a downloader takes legal action against "TAES AND TAMUS"? One can say distribution is a kind of use and a distributor is a Licensee.

And is that clause also applicable in the case of intentional infliction or grossly negligent causing of harm?

The clause causes IMO a risk for Debian and its users. It is more than a typical disclaimer (otherwise it would be superfluous).

Kind regards
Michael




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