On 4/3/22 07:57, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:

On 4/3/22 13:42, Dennis Clarke wrote:
But since you seem to have a reliable reproducer, you can start trying to bisect
the kernel to find the commit that introduced this regression.

That will be nearly impossible. I can not even recall when the bug first
appeared or when was the last time that I could run update-grub without
the machine locking up. At least two years now. Maybe three.

What do you mean is impossible? Bisecting the bug or the fact that it is
a kernel bug? I know very well it's a kernel bug because it does not occur
when using the 4.19 kernel on any of the affected SPARCs and it does not
occur on any of the newer SPARCs with a current kernel.

Are you sure of 4.19 ?  I see that 4.19.237 exists but I will guess the
same bug exists there also. I was going to begin with 4.19.114 which was
released 02-Apr-2020. A solid two years ago seems like as good a place
to start as any. However building the kernel will require that I create
an initrd and also update grub etc etc. I can do that manually and then
bypass the "update-grub" process entirely.

The SPARC T2 and T5 we are using don't have the problem at all, for example.

Also this is an even older UltraSparc IIi type machine. Really I should
have tossed it out long ago but the next machine I have handy is a
Fujitsu M3000 unit and I thought I had heard it was impossible to get
Linux on such a beast for unknown reasons. Could be myth or rumour but I
thought the M3000 was somehow "special". The larger M4000 seems to be
fine but those are just nasty large beasts to run in a home lab.

Dragging the deep waters looking for that kernel bug will take a lot of
time. Possibly even some luck.

Not really. You cross-build the kernel, transfer it to the machine and see if
update-grub works.

Hold on.  This sounds like a chicken and egg scenario. The update-grub
will fail every time. I will need to do the process by hand with an edit
to grub.cfg and with the files needed dropped into /boot with the few
kernel modules needed in /lib/modules/foo. That should be enough to at
least boot.

But I can do it myself if I find the time, I have an Ultra 45 that can be used
for that. Thought it would just be nice if I can get a helping hand, especially
since cross-compiling and bisecting the kernel isn't really hard, it just takes

Right. The one thing that no one can save or store or get more.  Time.

I have already started the process but I am starting with 4.19.114.

Dennis Clarke
UNIX and Linux spoken
GreyBeard and suspenders optional

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