>> On Sat, 27 Jun 1998, Jaakko Niemi wrote:
>> 
>> > As root exim -bp shows the queue.
>> 
>> I re-installed exim (I think for the last time now).  I can see the queue. 
>> All the messages are reported to be frozen.  Eximon does show some
>> messages.
>> 
>> >  This is because you are running as user, and you do not have permissions
>> >  to /var/log/exim. As the files are owned mail.mail add yourself to
>> >  group mail
>> >  and you should be able to run eximon right.
>> 
>> I did that and at least eximon showed something, but nothing that made me
>> more wise about what is going on.
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you for all your trouble.  Earlier in this list I queried the
>> correctness of somebody's mentioning of an "upgrade" to smail. I had a lot
>> of responses and some of the responses convinced me to try once again.
>> 
>> I have now, over the last weeks removed smail, installed exim , removed
>> exim , reinstalled smail about 6 times.  I have had no success so far.
>> 
>> Maybe I will try once (only once ) again when I have Debian 2.0.  I do not
>> have time to waste like this.  I want to convince my friends to use Linux.
>> I will keep them away from programs like exim until it can be installed to
>> work the first time.

 If you can get smail to work, use it. 

 I used to use smail, when I had a bo system. When I upgraded to hamm some
seven months ago (last december), I half-accidentally installed exim instead 
of smail, and have since used it and installed it several times without 
trouble. 

 I think there has been a lot of changes between bo and hamm versions of exim.

 Last night I watched a person (who had never even seen Linux) to install 
hamm (and exim) without any troubles. The only information I gave her was
where to find the relevant documentation. 

        --j



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