On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Yaro Kasear <y...@marupa.net> wrote:
>
> That's still a far cry from NO FLASH EVER FOR LINUX, which was the original
> assertion. Just "no Flash outside of Chrome."

No, it is exactly what we said. Adobe does not develop Flash for Linux anymore.
Google does,  but only for Chrome. As for Moz supporting Pepper:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=729481

Pepper is basically part of Google's Native Client, and MoFo views it
as an assault on traditional OpenWeb standards, and they will not
support it.

>Further, the citation you gave
> doesn't say that Flash users outside of Chrome are cut off entirely, they
> just won't get NEW Flash. Apparently security updates are still a go.

Maybe. Until they stop doing security updates for 11.2
They stopped *all* updates for 64 bit I know.

>
> Knowing the ingenuity of Linux users, hackers, and developers, someone will
> find a way to get this "Pepper" thing working on Firefox.
>
> Further, it's still not a big thing. Gnash, while certainly not up to par
> with Flash itself, is fine for most usage.

Well, I personally have never gotten Gnash or Lightspark to work on
Pandora or Youtube so it doesn't help me. Maybe for some it works.

> And another couple years will see HTML 5 supercede Flash anyway.

Maybe, hopefully. For some things anyway. But Youtube HTML5 is still
limited, and Pandora may not use flash for the UI anymore, but it
still delivers the stream via Flash. And in general things are not
moving too fast right now.

> As for AIR... I can't think of a single Linux
> app I use that actually deployed it, except maybe Hulu Desktop (Did that use
> AIR?) So is that even a loss?

No loss


Cheers,
Kelly


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