On Monday 19 February 2018 15:33:55 Brian wrote:

> On Mon 19 Feb 2018 at 21:16:20 +0100, deloptes wrote:
> > Brad Rogers wrote:
> > > So far, my experience with KDE/QT5 has been good;  Things that
> > > were, in the past, broken, now work again.  I've not found
> > > anything wrong at all.
> >
> > yes a friend installed it and showed it to me, so the difference was
> > there. I also looked at Qt5 and the Sailfish OS project - it is
> > impressive.
> >
> > > That said, I don't now, nor have I ever, used kmail, so can't
> > > comment about the state of play there.
> >
> > but this friend also does not user kmail and I am a heavy kmail
> > user. And even kmail is not the problem but the attitude of the KDE
> > team.
> This is the second time you have ascribed dubious motives to the KDE
> team. Technical criticisms are within the bounds of posting to -user;
> crediting them with some unspecified "attitude" and disregarding
> fixing "broken stuff" isn't.

Even if its true? I have, in the past, been told off by Mr. Ingo Klocker. 
The net result is that I'm useing TDE on my two most powerfull machines. 
And I will continue to promote it as a stable, just works, alternative 
to the high speed blender throwing stuff on the walls that is kde.
Or was at about 4.0. No clue what it is now. The kmail problem that 
resulted in my final msg from Mr. Klocker, has since been more than 
alleviated by offloading its mail fetching duties to fetchmail and 
procmail, coupled to kmail by a bash script I wrote using inotifywait, 
so the 2 minute freeze while it fetches mail from my isp's server, is 
now a fraction of a second while it fetches the mail 
from /var/spool/mail after being told over dbus that mail has arrived.. 

I'm basically a lazy old (83) coot, who handles his incoming mail by 
using the plus key to goto the next unread message, if its something I 
might help with, click on the correct reply format, start typing in the 
composer that appears, when done, ctrl-return sends it and the plus key 
brings up the next msg until there are none left. Or I have to leave and 
take care of my fading (repaired broken hip, late stage COPD) wife.  How 
much simpler can it get?

That bash script? Just ask.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
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