Wow! Sure would like to try and help the guy out.  I am not familiar
with the Lotus Domino issue? Is there anything as a group we can do to
help?

-Don

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>Verified in a discussion on SPAM-L list.

Verified by who?

When ORBS died, there were tons of rumors, many so widespread that most
people just assumed they were true, but few actual facts.  Since the
ORBZ
site is no longer reachable, there isn't an easy source of reliable
information.

I know that there is discussion on the SPAM-L list about it, but has
anyone
on that list actually verified that it is true?  I just didn't claim it
to
be a fact because of the ORBS incident, which took a couple weeks before
it
could be proven that ORBS was really gone.  I just don't want to see
another "A friend of a friend of my brother's wife's sister in law's
favorite bartender told me that..." (which often gets written in an
E-mail
as "It is a fact that...").
                                         -Scott

FWIW, I received this moments ago.....

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Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 03:15:49 +0000
From: ORBZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Shutdown

Here's the email that those of you with forward sight
have been fearing since the inception of ORBZ.

As of this moment, ORBZ is shutting down.  DNS zones
are going to stop resolving, the website will disappear
and mail will stop working (so furthur discussion on
this list probably won't work -- use NANAE).

I don't want to disappear in silence like ORBS, so I'll
try for as much description as possible without
compromising my own position.

I received an official court notice this afternoon to
turn over all information relation to ORBZ accounts.
This came from the 10th Judicial District court of the
State of Michigan.  It appears that ORBZ may be facing
criminal charges for denial of service relating to the
Lotus Domino issue.

I was happy to try to weather any civil issues that may
have come up, and I was committed to seeing it through.
However, the threat of jail time is too much; I don't
believe in this fight quite that much.

Thank you all for all your support.  I sincerely hope
that someone with the goal of carrying on the mission
of ORBZ pops up in another country with a less
foreboding legal system.  Anyone who has copies of the
current zones may do with them what they wish.

For those of you stuck without good spam filtering,
please consider ORDB and SpamCop; they both provide
excellent free solutions.

Ian Gulliver
ORBZ

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