We've been looking at them too, havent peiced one out yet though.
http://www.raritan.com

Frederick P. Squib, Jr.
Network Administrator
Citizens Internet Services
http://www.wpa.net


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom Baker |
Netsmith Inc
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 9:30 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: KITHRUP:RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELO:Declude Console


Actually I do believe I have seen KVM over LAN units (essentially what
everyone is talking about), but they are pricy. I'll try to find who
made
them/where I saw them.


-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 8:11 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: KITHRUP:RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELO:Declude Console


Sorry for the OT conversation :)

I could think of a number of corporate helpdesks that would purchase a
few
of these units. Just think of the money that they would save on travel
costs.

Ship this unit to the site (even if it had a whole PC Attached to it).
Rebuild the WHOLE server (from ground up) and all you would need is a
guy to
put floppies/CD's in the drives.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Madscientist
> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 8:59 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: KITHRUP:RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELO:Declude Console
> 
> 
> We've worked on that beast in the lab - it's a side project.
> Haven't seen one out on the street - maybe it's out there somewhere. 
> 
> The trouble is cost & bandwidth. Video capture & compression
> takes a lot of cycles and essentially requires a whole 
> computer to do - a high-end one at that, especially if you 
> want to minimize your updates by looking for changed window 
> features etc... lots of SW/HW. Finally decided to shelve it 
> until we can get custom hardware made to convert the video 
> signals back into reliable bit positions & run a specialized 
> sub-processor to recognize key features for the compression engine.
> 
> _M
> 
> | -----Original Message-----
> | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> | [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark Smith
> | Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 8:40 AM
> | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> | Subject: RE: KITHRUP:RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELO:Declude Console
> | 
> | 
> | I always thought that if someone came out with a device that had KVM

> | inputs and an Ethernet/modem output that would talk to another 
> | device, it would be the ultimate troubleshooting tool.
> | 
> | Imagine being able to send this device to a site 1000 miles away and

> | having total control of the console -- EVEN during BIOS setup.
> | 
> | Who knows.. Maybe someone's done it. :)
> | 
> | 
> | 
> | 
> | > -----Original Message-----
> | > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> | > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> | Craig Gittens
> | > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 8:30 AM
> | > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> | > Subject: RE: KITHRUP:RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELO:Declude Console
> | > 
> | > 
> | > Has anyone looked at Remtotely Anywhere? I use it and it
> | works great.
> | > 
> | > http://www.remotelyanywhere.com
> | > 
> | > Craig.
> | > 
> | > -----Original Message-----
> | > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> | > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Todd Ryan
> | > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 6:51 AM
> | > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> | > Subject: Re: KITHRUP:RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELO:Declude Console
> | > 
> | > 
> | > Have you tried TightVNC?  (www.tightvnc.com)  It was designed for
> | > slow connections and has a few more things tweaked for better 
> | > performance.  And it's also free.  Worth a look...
> | > 
> | > TightVNC Features (from their web site):
> | > 
> | > Local cursor handling. Cursor movements do not generate screen
> | > updates any more, remote cursor movements are processed 
> locally by
> | > the viewer, so you do not see remote cursor pointer
> moving too slow
> | > behind the local cursor.
> | > 
> | > Efficient compression algorithms. New Tight encoding is optimized
> | > for slow and medium-speed connections and thus generates 
> much less
> | > traffic as compared to traditional VNC encodings. At the
> same time,
> | > TightVNC supports all the standard VNC encodings, so it can be
> | > easily configured to operate efficiently in fast network 
> | > environments too.
> | > 
> | > Configurable compression levels. You can choose any appropriate
> | > level of compromise between compression ratios and coding speed, 
> | > depending on the your connection speed and processor power.
> | > 
> | > Optional JPEG compression. If you don't care too much
> about perfect
> | > image quality, you can enable JPEG coder which would compress
> | > color-rich screen areas much more efficiently (and image quality 
> | > level is configurable too). Web browser access. TightVNC includes 
> | > greatly improved Java viewer with full support for Tight 
> encoding,
> | > local cursor feature, 24-bit color mode, and more. The
> Java viewer
> | > applet can be accessed via built-in HTTP server like in
> the standard
> | > VNC.
> | > 
> | > Operating under Unix and Windows. All new features listed
> above are
> | > available in both Unix and Win32 versions of TightVNC.
> | > 
> | > Advanced Properties dialog in WinVNC. Unlike the standard VNC,
> | > TightVNC gives you a possibility to set a number of advanced 
> | > settings directly from the WinVNC GUI, and to apply 
> changed settings
> | > immediately. There is no need to launch regedit to set query
> | > options, connection priority, to allow loopback 
> connections, disable
> | > HTTP server etc.
> | > 
> | > Automatic SSH tunneling on Unix. Unix version of TightVNC
> viewer can
> | > tunnel connections via SSH automatically using local SSH
> or OpenSSH
> | > client installation.
> | > 
> | > And more. A number of other improvements, performance
> optimizations
> | > and bugfixes, see WhatsNew and ChangeLog documents.
> | > 
> | > 
> | > 
> | > ----- Original Message -----
> | > From: "David Lewis-Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> | > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> | > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 12:29 PM
> | > Subject: RE: KITHRUP:RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELO:Declude Console
> | > 
> | > 
> | > > We use VNC, pcAnywhere and TS, VNC is very slow over a
> | > 64kbps leased
> | > > line
> | > to
> | > > our remote servers but okay over a local lan, pcAnywhere is
> | > okay but
> | > > has a licence fee, TS is excellent aside from some apps
> (very few)
> | > > won't open in GUI mode.
> | > >
> | > > Sorry for being out of scope.
> | > >
> | > > David
> | > > WiSS Limited
> | > >
> | > > -----Original Message-----
> | > > From: Todd Holt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> | > > Sent: 16 July 2002 17:10
> | > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> | > > Subject: RE: KITHRUP:RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELO:Declude Console
> | > >
> | > >
> | > > I am a M$ fan, but they were right when they named the product
> | > > "terminal" services.  It sure is terminal. I have found
> | many things
> | > > that don't work
> | > as
> | > > expected when using terminal services, so beware.
> | > >
> | > > One product that we use is VNC. It is a very effective
> | > remote control
> | > > console, it uses very little bandwidth (as compared to
> | > other products)
> | > > and is free!!  You can even run it as a service on your
> | servers.  I
> | > > never go into the computer room any more!  It also has an
> | > web browser
> | > > client which works surprisingly well across HTTP.  The
> | product is a
> | > > testbed for AT&T labs.
> | > >
> | > > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/download.html
> | > >
> | > > Todd
> | > >
> | > >
> | > > -----Original Message-----
> | > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> | > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Jim Rooth
> | > > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 6:59 AM
> | > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> | > > Subject: KITHRUP:RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELO:Declude Console
> | > >
> | > >
> | > > Yes, I believe you are right.  After hooking up with
> pcAnywhere, I
> | > > could
> | > see
> | > > it but not through Terminal Service.
> | > >
> | > >
> | > > Jim Rooth
> | > > Klotron, Inc.
> | > >
> | > > -----Original Message-----
> | > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> | > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David
> | > Lewis-Waller
> | > > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 1:39 AM
> | > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> | > > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] HELO:Declude Console
> | > >
> | > > Am I right in thinking that the Declude console can't run
> | > when looged
> | > > in
> | > via
> | > > Terminal Service as it can't interact with the desktop?
> | > >
> | > > David
> | > > WiSS Limited
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