Closest I've seen is KVM over cat5 - but that's just the cable, not the networking protocols. If you find it I'd rather buy it than build it - Already spent 5 figures on R&D - not interested in extending that without funding... We've got better things to work on right now. _M
| -----Original Message----- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom | Baker | Netsmith Inc | Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 9:30 AM | To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' | Subject: RE: KITHRUP:RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELO:Declude Console | | | Actually I do believe I have seen KVM over LAN units | (essentially what everyone is talking about), but they are | pricy. I'll try to find who made them/where I saw them. | | | -----Original Message----- | From: Mark Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 8:11 AM | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: RE: KITHRUP:RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELO:Declude Console | | | Sorry for the OT conversation :) | | I could think of a number of corporate helpdesks that would | purchase a few of these units. Just think of the money that | they would save on travel costs. | | Ship this unit to the site (even if it had a whole PC | Attached to it). Rebuild the WHOLE server (from ground up) | and all you would need is a guy to put floppies/CD's in the drives. | | | | > -----Original Message----- | > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of | Madscientist | > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 8:59 AM | > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | > Subject: RE: KITHRUP:RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELO:Declude Console | > | > | > We've worked on that beast in the lab - it's a side | project. Haven't | > seen one out on the street - maybe it's out there somewhere. | > | > The trouble is cost & bandwidth. Video capture & | compression takes a | > lot of cycles and essentially requires a whole computer to do - a | > high-end one at that, especially if you want to minimize | your updates | > by looking for changed window features etc... lots of | SW/HW. Finally | > decided to shelve it until we can get custom hardware made | to convert | > the video signals back into reliable bit positions & run a | specialized | > sub-processor to recognize key features for the compression engine. | > | > _M | > | > | -----Original Message----- | > | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | > | [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of | Mark Smith | > | Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 8:40 AM | > | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | > | Subject: RE: KITHRUP:RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELO:Declude Console | > | | > | | > | I always thought that if someone came out with a device | that had KVM | > | inputs and an Ethernet/modem output that would talk to another | > | device, it would be the ultimate troubleshooting tool. | > | | > | Imagine being able to send this device to a site 1000 | miles away and | > | having total control of the console -- EVEN during BIOS setup. | > | | > | Who knows.. Maybe someone's done it. :) | > | | > | | > | | > | | > | > -----Original Message----- | > | > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | > | > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of | > | Craig Gittens | > | > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 8:30 AM | > | > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | > | > Subject: RE: KITHRUP:RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELO:Declude Console | > | > | > | > | > | > Has anyone looked at Remtotely Anywhere? I use it and it | > | works great. | > | > | > | > http://www.remotelyanywhere.com | > | > | > | > Craig. | > | > | > | > -----Original Message----- | > | > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | > | > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of | Todd Ryan | > | > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 6:51 AM | > | > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | > | > Subject: Re: KITHRUP:RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELO:Declude Console | > | > | > | > | > | > Have you tried TightVNC? (www.tightvnc.com) It was | designed for | > | > slow connections and has a few more things tweaked for better | > | > performance. And it's also free. Worth a look... | > | > | > | > TightVNC Features (from their web site): | > | > | > | > Local cursor handling. Cursor movements do not generate screen | > | > updates any more, remote cursor movements are processed | > locally by | > | > the viewer, so you do not see remote cursor pointer | > moving too slow | > | > behind the local cursor. | > | > | > | > Efficient compression algorithms. New Tight encoding is | optimized | > | > for slow and medium-speed connections and thus generates | > much less | > | > traffic as compared to traditional VNC encodings. At the | > same time, | > | > TightVNC supports all the standard VNC encodings, so it can be | > | > easily configured to operate efficiently in fast network | > | > environments too. | > | > | > | > Configurable compression levels. You can choose any appropriate | > | > level of compromise between compression ratios and | coding speed, | > | > depending on the your connection speed and processor power. | > | > | > | > Optional JPEG compression. If you don't care too much | > about perfect | > | > image quality, you can enable JPEG coder which would compress | > | > color-rich screen areas much more efficiently (and | image quality | > | > level is configurable too). Web browser access. | TightVNC includes | > | > greatly improved Java viewer with full support for Tight | > encoding, | > | > local cursor feature, 24-bit color mode, and more. The | > Java viewer | > | > applet can be accessed via built-in HTTP server like in | > the standard | > | > VNC. | > | > | > | > Operating under Unix and Windows. All new features listed | > above are | > | > available in both Unix and Win32 versions of TightVNC. | > | > | > | > Advanced Properties dialog in WinVNC. Unlike the standard VNC, | > | > TightVNC gives you a possibility to set a number of advanced | > | > settings directly from the WinVNC GUI, and to apply | > changed settings | > | > immediately. There is no need to launch regedit to set query | > | > options, connection priority, to allow loopback | > connections, disable | > | > HTTP server etc. | > | > | > | > Automatic SSH tunneling on Unix. Unix version of TightVNC | > viewer can | > | > tunnel connections via SSH automatically using local SSH | > or OpenSSH | > | > client installation. | > | > | > | > And more. A number of other improvements, performance | > optimizations | > | > and bugfixes, see WhatsNew and ChangeLog documents. | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > ----- Original Message ----- | > | > From: "David Lewis-Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | > | > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | > | > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 12:29 PM | > | > Subject: RE: KITHRUP:RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELO:Declude Console | > | > | > | > | > | > > We use VNC, pcAnywhere and TS, VNC is very slow over a | > | > 64kbps leased | > | > > line | > | > to | > | > > our remote servers but okay over a local lan, pcAnywhere is | > | > okay but | > | > > has a licence fee, TS is excellent aside from some apps | > (very few) | > | > > won't open in GUI mode. | > | > > | > | > > Sorry for being out of scope. | > | > > | > | > > David | > | > > WiSS Limited | > | > > | > | > > -----Original Message----- | > | > > From: Todd Holt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | > | > > Sent: 16 July 2002 17:10 | > | > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | > | > > Subject: RE: KITHRUP:RE: [Declude.JunkMail] | HELO:Declude Console | > | > > | > | > > | > | > > I am a M$ fan, but they were right when they named | the product | > | > > "terminal" services. It sure is terminal. I have found | > | many things | > | > > that don't work | > | > as | > | > > expected when using terminal services, so beware. | > | > > | > | > > One product that we use is VNC. It is a very effective | > | > remote control | > | > > console, it uses very little bandwidth (as compared to | > | > other products) | > | > > and is free!! You can even run it as a service on your | > | servers. I | > | > > never go into the computer room any more! It also has an | > | > web browser | > | > > client which works surprisingly well across HTTP. The | > | product is a | > | > > testbed for AT&T labs. | > | > > | > | > > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/download.html | > | > > | > | > > Todd | > | > > | > | > > | > | > > -----Original Message----- | > | > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | > | > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of | > Jim Rooth | > | > > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 6:59 AM | > | > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | > | > > Subject: KITHRUP:RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELO:Declude Console | > | > > | > | > > | > | > > Yes, I believe you are right. After hooking up with | > pcAnywhere, I | > | > > could | > | > see | > | > > it but not through Terminal Service. | > | > > | > | > > | > | > > Jim Rooth | > | > > Klotron, Inc. | > | > > | > | > > -----Original Message----- | > | > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | > | > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David | > | > Lewis-Waller | > | > > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 1:39 AM | > | > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' | > | > > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] HELO:Declude Console | > | > > | > | > > Am I right in thinking that the Declude console can't run | > | > when looged | > | > > in | > | > via | > | > > Terminal Service as it can't interact with the desktop? | > | > > | > | > > David | > | > > WiSS Limited | > | > > --- | > | > > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus | > | > > (http://www.declude.com)] | > | > > | > | > > --- | > | > > | > | > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. 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